Keef

I'm not sure what point I was making there, I went off on one, and made several :-$

Against Chelsea I wouldn't give a sh!t, I'd just watch as a neutral. Against Barca, I'd honestly be a bit torn. Yes Man U are Liverpool's biggest rivals, but why more so than anyone else? For scousers and mancs, it's obvious local rivalry, but for a supporter from London, or indeed Wales, why should it be such a big thing? Having lived in Liverpool, yes I feel a bit more competetive towards Man U than most teams, but if they're playing a european team, then I just want to see a great football match (and whatever you say, Man U are a great football team, with a very good midfield), and I'd be quite happy to see an English team win. Then I hear a load of Man U fans being total cocks about it, and so I suddenly feel like I've been foolish to cheer them... It's a catch 22 for me :-S I'd never boo a Man U player in an England shirt though, well possibly Phil Neville giving away that penalty years ago. This competition about being a proper or real fan gets on my tits. You and Anna go up to Anfield all the time and follow the team. I don't because I can't afford to, and honestly if I had more money, I'd spend it going to see gigs rather than footy matches, because it's a better experience for me (I have crappy eyesight, so going to matches gives me limited access, I'd rather see it clearly on a tv with a cold beer in the pub). However, I love watching football, probably as much as anyone else on here, and I feel a lot of love towards Liverpool because I have fond memories of the place, and going to Anfield a lot (when it wouldn't have meant every spare penny I have). Please don't take that as confrontational, I am just trying to explain how I see things. Where we definitely differ, is that I would much much rather see England win a world cup, and experience that joy and buzz in the pubs, than cheer Liverpool winning any cup.

Yeah, sticking 2 fingers up at other people for an acheivment that isn't yours is much better. This is why I have come to the conclusion that I am not a "real" footy fan. I love watching the game, I want Liverpool to win things, and I particularly like it when they beat certain teams. Yet, I will cheer these other teams in european games, and if Liverpool get beat, I will go about my day and move on... ... to the oval perhaps.

I've always liked Park. Two wrongs don't make a right, I see your point, and thought at the time that it would come back to haunt Liverpool fans, but surely you can see the difference? Your lot actually win a shed load of things, and have always been so cocky about it (not so much the players, although Ronaldo lacks class sometimes). That is why I find it very hard to take my hat of to United sometimes, I like a gracious winner. If Liverpool win the league anytime soon, I cringe to think how some (and we both know who I mean) will act, and I'd find that just as classless!

Nice low blow there r-d, everyone loves a gracious winner eh.

Absolutely! I'm really keen to see the new documentary, reviews have been great, even from people that before watching it, thought he was just a nasty piece of work.

That has reminded me. Sheryl Crow, Sweet child of mine. WTF!

Perhaps not, but spurs never lost a player.

Hmmm, commentators saying the red card was a terrible error. He got the tip of his toe on the ball, but undoubtely took the man too. I don't really know what the score is there, the player had no chance to chase the ball. Sad for the player if it stands.

Very true! I will tip my hat to Chelsea if they beat Barca tomorrow, but Man U vs Barca would be tasty.

Was hoping for a really exciting match, could still turn out that way, but 2 early goals have pretty much taken the sting out of it.

Bloody hell, hadn't even got to the tell yet, and I see on line that Man U are a goal up! Mountain to climb now for Arsenal, but the fat lady is stuck in traffic, and won't be taking the stage for a while yet...

There are some, and not just the man himself, who rate Mayweather that highly. He just might have the skills to be as great as Ali, but not the class. Ali was one of the few who could be cocky and arrogant with class.

I am no U2 fan, but it would be harsh to say they've not produced a few gems. I always qute liked "Stuck in a moment".

Cry to me - Soloman Burke

I have a feeling pa-man will (if the fight happens) beat Mayweather... I know the fights were a while ago, but Mayweather made tougher work of De La Hoya and Hatton. Think they're probably techniquely every bit as good as each other, but it's just the amount of punches that pac-man seems to throw, and the power he seems to be able to put behind them at any weight! Much as I love to watch Mayweather fight, it would do him good to get knocked the f*ck out! Just as long as it hapens in or after the 10th!!!

VERY WELL!!!!! Give her cake! Going to run out of cake at this rate, we only had 3 pieces and we didn't expect such a rush!

In case people missed it, series 2 started last night on BBC. Guess it continues tonight, wish they'd put them on an hour earlier though, I mean who cares about newnight! ;-)

I love Wuthering Heights, and the bit where she sings "you know it's me, Kathy" is a sweet sweet vocal! Not so keen on Babushka, love "Man with a child in his eyes". I also like Alanis (sorry Rosie), although you're right, the things in "Ironic" are not ironic, which I guess is Ironic :-S And sorry Hona, I also quite like Cocker's version of "a little help". Mainly because it became a kareoke classic in my uni days :-$

Definitely the underdogs I'd say, but don't sound so defeatest, they have a great chance. Besides, an Arsenal Vs Barca final would be a great repeat of '06.

Saw him at Wembley arena a few years back, wasn't bad. Don't think you'll ever see him in a small venue anymore, unless it's unannounced and you get lucky.

So did I quids!!! It was approx 1995, I was only about 17. They used to get big acts there doing warm up shows. In fact ED Comedy (as it was then) still does up at the hob. Izzard though is probably far too big a star these days! Still like him, but think his comedy peak was "Dress to kill", and that was over 10 years ago now! Cake or death?

15 quid will be worth it for pac man vs mayweather! I so hope that fight happens!

Good call mighty roar! I quite like Kids, the one he did with Kylie, but then he goes and ruins the whole song with that rap thing at the end.

Scrotum Squeezing Really Agitates.