What Brendan said, especially I think something about the area has changed quite recently. As I said earlier, last Friday we started at the CPT for a few before wandering down Lordship Lane. Now I have never been a big Bishop fan, but FFS, the crowd outside both there, and the cherry (which I am a fan of) was huge and frankly, chavy! The rest of the Lane just seemed really quiet and subdued. Went in the EDT for one, but left due to massive volume of music, and not being able to take beer outside for a smoke. Ended up joining the forum drinks at the Gowlett which was very pleasant, but to be honest, hadn't been out intention. Maybe it was a one off, but if that was my one experience of Lordship Lane, I wouldn't go back, and I wouldn't recommend it. Also agree with Brendan that the Plough is now one of the most appealling places in ED, and with the exception of the wallpaper, I still like the good old CPT :)-D