As someone who works in the disability field, I still wouldn't really use it as a pro for these buses, as in reality, you don't see that many wheelchair users at the bus stops, and I have certainly never seen a person in a wheelchair left at a bus stop due to lack of access. Prams are another matter, and for that reason, I guess they get a tick, but I still think they are horrific things. I have never used them to travel to work in central London, I used to catch the 12 to Peckham, then the 436 to New Cross, and I found it a horrid horrid journey, even more so (for some reason) coming back to Peckham from New Cross. Give me a double decker any day! david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are they really so divisive? It would seem so ;-)