Keef

We took my daughter to a&e today. They were very busy but she was seen reasonably quickly, and all the staff were lovely.

We took my daughter to a&e today. They were very busy but she was seen reasonably quickly, and all the staff were lovely.

I will just say that telling us how many black friends you have, probably just strengthens some people's views that you're racist. It's like protesting too much. Sometimes you just can't win.

I will just say that telling us how many black friends you have, probably just strengthens some people's views that you're racist. It's like protesting too much. Sometimes you just can't win.

I don't know if Tony is a racist or not. When he first came on here, I took one look at his user name, and immediately thought of the BNP in Welling, but that was my conclusion, based on not a lot. Tony has talked about race a lot, but I'm not convinced he is racist. He talked about black people being naturally better sprinters for example. He was jumped on for it, but frankly, if you look at a few athletics meets, it's hard to argue. Last week, channel 4 had a show The Event - How racist are you? It was an annoying programme based on a very very simplistic experiment that was first done 40 years ago on a group of 8 year olds. Unfortunately, the woman who created it, hasn't done anything to improve it since. Anyway, the point is, there was a lady on that show who was probably 60 odd, and at the end, she made quite a passionate speech about how she'd grown up in a white Britain, even when she was a young woman, and she found it difficult watching her country change, and adjusting to it. She pointed out that her kids have no issue with it, and that it was her problem, and she was still trying to get there. Was this woman racist? In my opinion, no she wasn't, she was a product of a society that has changed around her. I kind of imagine TLS being a bit like that. Either way, he can't defend himself here, so this should stop. Saying BBW made crude posts is a fact, that he'd probably be proud of. Saying that someone is a racist, is not a fact, it is an accusation, and if he can't speak up for himself, it is not fair.

I don't know if Tony is a racist or not. When he first came on here, I took one look at his user name, and immediately thought of the BNP in Welling, but that was my conclusion, based on not a lot. Tony has talked about race a lot, but I'm not convinced he is racist. He talked about black people being naturally better sprinters for example. He was jumped on for it, but frankly, if you look at a few athletics meets, it's hard to argue. Last week, channel 4 had a show The Event - How racist are you? It was an annoying programme based on a very very simplistic experiment that was first done 40 years ago on a group of 8 year olds. Unfortunately, the woman who created it, hasn't done anything to improve it since. Anyway, the point is, there was a lady on that show who was probably 60 odd, and at the end, she made quite a passionate speech about how she'd grown up in a white Britain, even when she was a young woman, and she found it difficult watching her country change, and adjusting to it. She pointed out that her kids have no issue with it, and that it was her problem, and she was still trying to get there. Was this woman racist? In my opinion, no she wasn't, she was a product of a society that has changed around her. I kind of imagine TLS being a bit like that. Either way, he can't defend himself here, so this should stop. Saying BBW made crude posts is a fact, that he'd probably be proud of. Saying that someone is a racist, is not a fact, it is an accusation, and if he can't speak up for himself, it is not fair.

I would have liked to have come out, but had to make a choice. Unfortunately, it would seem that I have worse hangovers from Friday nights in, than I ever did from nights out.

I would have liked to have come out, but had to make a choice. Unfortunately, it would seem that I have worse hangovers from Friday nights in, than I ever did from nights out.

Stay another day - E17

Stay another day - E17

Chelsea transfer ban suspended for the time being. Not that they're particularly in need of players just now. I'm no fan of the club, but it is nice to see Joe Cole back, and playing some great stuff too. Has to be good for England!

Oh, and Woof, I was thinking just that earlier. Keef who registered for this forum had a very different life and lifestyle to Keef today, who posts on the x-factor thread with some degree of passion.

Oh, and Woof, I was thinking just that earlier. Keef who registered for this forum had a very different life and lifestyle to Keef today, who posts on the x-factor thread with some degree of passion.

*bob*, giggirl, piers, and Brendan PM'd me once, saying they were going to slice my ears in to points, so I'd forever look like a pixie.

*bob*, giggirl, piers, and Brendan PM'd me once, saying they were going to slice my ears in to points, so I'd forever look like a pixie.

West Ham in next years champions league?

West Ham in next years champions league?

I would honestly like to know that too, because if it was, it was poor form.

I would honestly like to know that too, because if it was, it was poor form.

Cross post.

Cross post.

That is not a withdrawal. Michael's post was good, although a subject shouldn't be swept away just because it has come up before (except william roase, buggies, curry houses, and M&S).

That is not a withdrawal. Michael's post was good, although a subject shouldn't be swept away just because it has come up before (except william roase, buggies, curry houses, and M&S).

What Sean said, that is the quickest way, once you've done the initial setting up of the list.

Aston Villa 2 v Bolton 0 Blackburn 1 Portsmouth 2 Man City 2 Burnley 1 Tottenham 2 Sunderland 3 (Bent hatrick surely!) Wolverhampton 0 Arsenal 2 Chelsea 2 Man Utd 2 Hull 0 Stoke 0 West Ham 2 Everton 1 Wigan 1 Fulham 2 Liverpool 3 Birmingham 2 (Veronin hatrick.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)