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Not really but as you've asked, and as it wasn't aimed at you anyway, I'll chip in...... I find Mockney's formula for attributing 20 million plus deaths (almost worked out to the nearest 100) solely down to the USA's foreign policy, without any other contributory factors whatsoever, a little lacking in sophistication. For example....Did they start the Vietnam War? Was the Cold War entirely down to them? Were other NATO countries complicit? Also loved the line about sanctions hurting babies. So if military intervention = bad, and economic sanctions = bad, exactly how do you enforce international law.

Bloody hell! I've stumbled accross a 6th Form Common Room!

It did seem to be caused by the big gang of kids who were causing trouble before the fight. Thirteen is a bit of an exaggeration though, it was more like eight.

An American friend sent me this: MEET-UP FOR SUPPORTERS OF BARACK OBAMA Wednesday, 6th February 7.30pm The Patisserie, downstairs 77A Gloucester Road, London SW7 4SS

Have you ever been in the Bishop Keef? Believe me, you don't get the same crowd drinking in there as they relocated to the Wetherspoons in Forest Hill when they realised that the beer prices went up. It also looks a lot different. The Magdala was a hole which was more like drinking in a badly decorated living room than an actual pub, and although the Plough may have been good many, many moons ago, it certainly wasn't 6yrs ago.

What pubs are worse now than they were 6yrs ago? The Plough? The Foresters? The Magdala? The pubs were awful in East Dulwich when I first moved here.

They're going to have a needle exchange at the new school? Everybody get your pitchforks and take to the streets!

Inadvertently you're right in as much that it is often a lack of self-esteem which makes some teenage girls vulnerable to predatory boys. Have a biscuit.

Errr , what facts would they be?

I'm more interested in the other one. What on earth is she doing? Do you think she's been naughty?

Judging by how popular it was before standards dropped, I don't think the price has anything to do with it. Why do you think everything should be priced according to your income/purchasing power? The chippy the Seacow replaced was of the "traditional sort", and was absolutely dire, and only about a quid cheaper on takeaway cod and chips, not the kind of business to get all teary-eyed about, battered sausages or no battered sausages.....

She won't be happy until they start serving "batter bits" at 10p a back.

What, in the top left corner? Why's he wearing a dress?

Wasn't trying to be insulting, just trying to point out a couple of things really. There seems to be a lot of exaggeration from those who think all pubs should be geared up for people who want an odd "coffee" before 7pm, or to quietly read a newspaper over a slow pint. There also seems to be a lot of laziness from people unwilling to walk or get a bus to one of the many, many child-free establishments in the area. The "it takes 25 minutes to walk to the CPT" seemed to sum both of these up quite nicely.

If you live close to the Plough but it takes you 25mins to walk to the CPT then perhaps you should spend less time in the pub and more in the gym (which incidentally is kid free).

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I've always found that the Grolsch is kept really badly at the CPT. The two best pints of lager in East Dulwich are Inside 72's Lownbrau, and the Plough's Peroni.

Can't see how you came to that conclusion, I just know lots of kids who consider going to the pub a bit of a treat. I think its more to do with fizzy drinks than cigars.

Quite, why people who don't want to be surrounded by families would go to the Plough before 7:00 pm is beyond me, especially when there are so many pubs in East Dulwich that do not particularily welcome kids. For christs sake, go to the Clockhouse. Also, there's a picture being painted that the pubs in East Dulwich are full of bored and depressed children who would rather be anywhere else than in the boozer. I've found that most children enjoy going to the pub although they do get bored after about an hour, this is the point where most parents I know decide to take them home.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head there Asset, how many of the anti-family pub crowd would have dared to venture into the Plough or the Forresters before they were re-invented. The bottom-line is that pubs allow, even encourage, families during the day because it makes commercial sense to do so, because a family of 4 will normally spend more money in two hours than the individual who goes there to read the Sunday Times whilst nursing a pint of bitter. To complain about this shows about as much commercial awareness as the forumites who feel that house prices in East Dulwich should be kept artificially low. Furthermore, there are many pubs in the area that are not family-friendly; Clockhouse, Castle, Inside 72, Palmerston, Liquorice, Franklins etc, more infact than those that welcome children. Apart from the garden at the Herne, I never see children (other than babies) in the pubs mentioned after 19:30, roughly the time that "real" grown-ups like to come out and play. I suggest some people would be happier living in the Docklands, not many children there, although I imagine they'd soon be complaining about the braying yuppies.......

His hair not only shows an inability to make the best of limited resources, but also a complete failure to recognise when something isn't really working and make the necessary changes. Can you name a good England manager with a dodgy haircut?

No shit?

Quite! At the very least they wouldn't have the wherewithal to log on to a chat forum and dump their woes onto our narrow shoulders.

How does one stop this "Economic Ethnic Cleansing"?