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Macroban I would disagree with you on the number of local kids who need secondary school education. A school such as Goodrich will have at least 50 boys in every school year and add Heber and Goose Green to this and it will already make a sizeable dent into the 150 places. This is before you include the local schools from outside the SE22 postcode. Also, the data that you gave us, if you study it carefully, completely contradicts your argument.

Hat off to you if you can walk from Lordship Lane to the Half Moon in 10 mins.

It looked like it was open for a while at lunchtime yesterday but was then shut a again later in the afternoon.

Etherow Street was completely destroyed as well wasn't it.

Sean Well the thread got off to a bad start with Louisa's intervention, so its probably made people a bit more defensive than they should have been. I don't know why there hasn't been more information released about this, my gut feeling though would be to stop the kind of hysteria that these situations often create. Especially as, until very recently it seemed like an isolated incident.

TillieTrotter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You have a point DPF but you cant really compare > reckless/mindless behaviour to the cold blooded > intention of raping/harming kids can you?? I can actually, for me the comparism would be between arrogant, selfish behaviour and mentally ill behaviour.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This makes me so angry! When I hear about people > abusing kids it makes me want to get hold of the > bugger and start punching until his screams give > way to gurgles, and then silence. This would > probably get me done for assault and I would have > to go and talk to a psychologist about my > unresolved anger issues. Just because I want my > kids to be able to play out and annoy the > neighbours like I did. > > I don?t suppose anyone has heard if the police > have followed this up? See, I reserve my anger more for idiots who drive too fast on residential streets, or use their mobiles whilst driving. They're a much bigger risk to my kids than the "bogeyman" figure.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't mind the odd unjust war, but the rise of > the SPORTS BAR is unforgivable. Thats got more to do with Sky and the rise of Lad/Ladette culture than the United States though.

ChavWivaLawDegree Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is very scary stuff. A similar thing > happened outside my daughter's school about a year > ago when I was living in Elephant & Castle, and we > were told by the police that attempts like this > are not as rare as many people think, and the > perpetrators are not always the ones who abuse > kids, they are sometimes junkies or other people > who get paid to snatch the kids for the organised > abusers. This is about very sick criminals making > huge amounts of money from the kinds of stuff Gary > Glitter got caught downloading. I don't want to > scare anyone, but this is often about money and > organised crime. As a mother, this scares the > crap out of me. Do you really have a law degree?

Sean, you're not bathing yourself in glory on this subject are you. I heard of a similar incident that occurred on Calton Avenue 3 months prior to this and the description of the perpetrator sounds very, very similar. The reason I heard is because my son has an evening activity at the church and the teacher told us what had happened (I think from memory that it was a child leaving a scouts meet held at the church) and warned us to be extra vigilant. He also doesn't let kids wait outside for their parents anymore but i think you're probably right, and he's just another fantasist. Also, ithe reason it doesn't make the news (as if an incident like this would make London Tonight?) is because its small potatoes compared to 12-14 yr old kids slicing or shooting each other up on a seemingly daily basis. The reaction of some people to this thread has been very strange indeed.

Tom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > sorry to be a bit sceptical, but why hasn't this > been followed up on the news? surely 2 events > should qualify for london tonight? > why have there not been signs up from the police. > i nice big yellow board would help raise awareness > very quickly. > > The Administrator]

The only incomers welcome in East Dulwich are low-incomers who went to secondary school here.

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I didn't hear anyone bemoaning the loss of the > glass shop for example. > > Are you familiar with East Dulwich? > > The "glass shop" is not lost - it just moved a > little way to Shawbury Road. I know, but no-one is bemoaning its loss from Lordship Lane. Very rarely did I pop down LL to get some coffee, french bread, flowers, and a big ass piece of glass.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I thought about halfway through this thread became > tongue-in-cheek.:-S No, I mean every word of it.:X

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Keef, apparantly everyone from a working class > background who shops in Iceland and prefers > Britannia chippy is some sort of benefits claimer. > Now you can see why I get my back up so often. Louisa People only say it to take the mickey out of the more extreme posters on this board.

Keef They started it.

If only the toy shop had held out for a few more years they'd be quids in. I've been here seven years and never heard of any of those businesses, didn't seem like the "others" gave them much financial support though or they'd still be here.

Louisa On the "things we miss about Lordship Lane" thread, the only thing that was really mentioned was the 7/11, which seems to undermine your rose-tinted view of what the hood used to be like. I didn't hear anyone bemoaning the loss of the glass shop for example. Concerning the Plough, the only people who are going to miss its previous form are the owners of the Kebab House opposite to it. I know for one that the police are jumping for joy. Unless, you have a drug habit of course.

Louisa We've been very generous. You still have AJ Farmers for your household needs, Iceland for your frozen meals, and a couple of cafes for traditional English "fayre". You also have the Castle if you fancy looking at old carpet, stained curtains, and falling down wall paper whilst you sip your sweet martini. You know, like the old days when pubs were proper pubs.

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You are right DPF. How noble of you. Perhaps we > do-gooder, lefty, liberal, sandal wearing > 'incomers' could set up some sort of > counselling/soup kitchen network for them. Freely > dispensing our greater knowledge and wisdom of the > wider world in order that gradually they may be > able to come to terms with the harsh realties of > life. I was thinking more along the lines of a Native American-style reservation.

There was a similar incident about 3 months ago outside the church on Calton Avenue. The guy again was quite young.

As an "incomer" I do feel sorry for the trauma the "others" have suffered over the last ten years. Theirs used to be a simple happy life spent hunting and gathering on the plains of Dulwich park, and foraging for berries in the local woodlands. The inevitable arrival of the modern world happened too quickly for them and has left many unable to cope with the grim realities of the market economy, and the subsequent tyranny of commerce. Is it any wonder that they constantly reminisce about the lost arcadia that was 1980's East Dulwich. These people deserve our support not opprobrium.

When's it re-opening? I had a peek through the window last night and it looked nearly finished.

rob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why doesn't everyone have a lovely warm glass of > Le Piat Dor and one of Eric and Maggie's grebe and > pamplemousse dauphinoise and make friends? Because its never open.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DPF, most of their customers they know on a first > name basis, and they have always told me they are > more than happy to welcome new people in, which is > why I get so frsutrated by the propaganda some > people push about on here about how awful the > place is! :) So its not out of the question that they might bump someone from the comfy seats if one of their regulars came in? It happens at other places too you know.