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The North End and the Estates are bad. Prenton is a bit of a nicer area with more people in their own homes and working. I went to school on the Woodchurch Estate in the late 70's - 80's and lived on the border of it. If we walked through other estates we would have to fight our way out. There were regular battles between the Woody and Ford Estate with petrol bombs and the occasional gun. I've seen guys get bricked, glassed, bottled etc. It was always violent when I was growing up and I had a lot of fights. The gand I was with used to go to Tranmere at the end of the game just to fight the opposition and the police. It all seemed normal. I go back and nothing much has changed. There is a lick of paint but the attitude to indiscriminate violence is the same as it ever was. Some of the people I knew when I was young are still fighting despite being sick of it. They feel that they cannot avoid it and some prefer to stay at home just to keep out of trouble. Pretty much all of them are white, but living in rundown crappy areas.

I find it ok, and it stops me buying stuff I don't need. I get too hot if anything and have to undo my cycle jacket after a while to cool off. When I am going to get a lot of stuff tho, I take my dog with me, and he helps by pulling me up Crystal Palace Road. I can do it ok without him, but he loves pulling stuff and it gives him a workout at the same time as helping me with the load!

Where I grew up was a mainly white area, Birkenhead, and it is still one of the most violent places in the country. It is not a black v white thing, it is a deprived v affluent thing. In different areas you have different mixes of ethnicities in the most deprived areas, some asian, some black and some white, but the common thread is not their race, it is the deprivation they grow up in and the lack of positive outlets.

You could use something like this: http://www.bicycletrailers.com/assets/product_images/alternate/300/102196000000000.jpg I have one and it fits a lot of shopping in. Or one of these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Bicycle-trailer-for-outdoor-trekking.jpg/800px-Bicycle-trailer-for-outdoor-trekking.jpg

Don't forget your hoods.

That's wierd. Looks like she's part of some strange pagan ritual.

Jaffa Cakes: "Full moon", "Half Moon", "Total eclipse" (as the teacher scoffs the jaffa cake in front of the kids) "And again, Full moon"... Kids VERY bored looking! Her accent made it even funnier.

LIDL is my all time favourite and my least favourite is a toss up between Tesco & Asda cos they are bloodsucking destroyers of community, farming and society in general, plus their food is crap.

Red sea bass is nice in the Jamaican shop I go to. And what about onion gravy for us northerners?

Sean - you moved away from your home country and any of the subtle class markers you may have had in Ireland would not be the same here so you are more able to be classless. When I have lived in Canada, Belgium or France the same happened to me, my class markers were different to the class markers they recognised and although they still have class hierarchies, I seemed classless because many of mine where not the ones they understood. Coming back to the UK was depressing because after being respected as generic English, having the class hierarchy imposed on me again by others and having to try to prove that what I say is more important than how I say it became an uphill battle again.

Sean - Your class is not something you can always pretend not to be, or leave behind, and why the f%*k should you have to in order to be taken seriously or given the respect you deserve? I know working class social climbers who sound stupid trying to pretend they are something they are not and middle-class slummers who run back to mummy at the first sign of real trouble. The class divide in this country is as strong as it ever was and the love of money (not you ????) and financial status as the measure of success make the middle classes feel entitled to look down on the white trash and chavs that spoil their otherwise 'perfect' life.

In my opinion, any middle class person calling a white working class person a chav is as bad as anyone being rascist.

I think the reason they clamp down on tax discs is because that is how they catch the people who drive around unisured and with un-MOT-able cars.

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It sounds quite interesting actually. I might try to get to the Islam one and religion and law.

I also wanted to conquer the world, but then settled for conquering my own! Still trying on that one.

There you go - unworthy. I prefer sex worker because nothing I did was unworthy, shameful or degrading.

Now I'm a remote sex therapist (educating you guys on here!)

I had all my kids in Guys and my daughter had her baby in St Thomas' last January. They are really good and now have a birthing pool. Her friend had her baby in Kinds about 5 days earlier and said she would never go to Kings again. I have heard a few horror stories about Kings which is not exactly scientific, but I am not happy that my local hospital is now Kings and not Guys/St Thomas's and would beg the ambulance to take me North of the borough if I was ever sick enough to need one!

but longer.

Lizzy - I know, I'm pretty thick skinned anyway but I just wanted to respond to Bob's post really.

Sex-worker describes what you do and incorporates male prostitutes, strippers, porn actors and others in the sex industry and is less condemnatory than, prozzy, whore, tart, rent boy or whatever other names you might prefer to call us.

When I first started, watching the over 50 year olds trying to flog their wares and being rebuffed, was enough for me to never want to be in that position as I got older. As soon as I could no longer command complete respect from the clients, would have been time for me to quit. The decision was forced on me by my relapse on opiates after 13 years when I was about 32 subsequently being banged up abroad. The addiction had blurred the lines for me re sex work and I never felt the urge to go back. Instead I shagged a lot of young guys for free!

This might be why you lot are unsatisfied and hate so many things! (and there was me blaming it on lack of sex!)

I always drag a child with me cos the family railcard makes it affordable to travel by rail, especially if u book it more than 3 days in advance.