Ant

My kids aren't baptised (christened, whatever), and we didn't have a god-type wedding either. I think you're right that if you know what you believe you're better sticking to it. But at the same time I think the reason a lot of not-particularly-religious people might have church weddings, christenings etc. is becuase they feel they need to mark these events somehow and that the church offers the best way of doing this - not necessarily because of god but because of tradition, or a sort of collective habit. It's how things have been done for ages, so it feels more... I don't know... established. Does that make sense to anyone else or is it just me?

Ooh - congrats both to DM and MP. I'd love a look - may swing by the CPT on my way back from photo shenanigans this evening. I'f I'm not already too drunk by then. (Ahem.)

*wanders in, a bit goggle-eyed from wearing contact lenses that are not quite the right strength* *reaches for a drink but misses* *gets drink, raises drink, drains drink, refreshes drink, repeats*

You've obviously got that internet look about you. Whatever that might be.

*decides that clearing up the day's debris - toys and such scattered all over - can wait* *raises a glass with DM*

Oh good lord... time to flee.

Can't watch from work, but does that say something along the lines of Stairway to the Sky (ie to Heaven) in a flamenco style?

Blimey, Fear. Bit of a biscuit-head, are you?

I like a nice crips langue du chat. (Not necessarily true. I just wanted to say it.)

*hands over a small silver thing about three inches long - a burnished aluminium stub ergonomically tooled to fit comfortably in the hand; at one end a satisfyingly red button protrudes* *just one click and it's project-managerse.cx, if you get my drift*

*thinks: is that the one that makes them curl up and disappear up their own fundaments with a fwiipp! sound?*

I really enjoyed it. More of this kind of thing!

*hands Mockers a skittles sour* *quietly agrees and understands*

Is she coming down for the next forum drinks then? Ah, that's nice. Should we call her Mrs BarryMum or just BarryMum? ;)

*munches on skittles sours*

Looks like it's goodbye Kangley Bridge and hello Beckenham for our weekend splash with the brats.

Do they have a kids' pool too?

Silliness, country style, from Germany: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C_bw3aDSOI - Hey Ya - Word Up

squelch squerch... oh help, oh no, it's a gruffalo! hoo wooo!... argh! It's a bear!! Ahem. Sorry. Pavlovian reflex or summat.

Hm, buses'll be full too then I expect.

What I was saying was that atheism, as far as I understand it, is a belief that there is no god. However, there's no real evidence for that, just a lack of evidence that there is. So, agnosticism wins out in a way. Having said that, I'm an atheist.

Atheism is as much a leap of faith as religion. If you want to be really rational about it then agnosticism is the answer.

I dunno - thought it was quite funny myself. He doesn't impinge on my life much, so I don't really know much about the guy, but it strikes me that just because he wrote it, it doesn't necessarily follow that he thinks it himself. Or thinks it to that extent and with that particular slant. Perhaps he's writing in a persona, for an effect, whatever. /devil's advocate

*nods to Mockers* *raises a single eyebrow to indicate that that emerging from a singularity business can take quite a while to get right* *refreshes pimms and gives the boat a gentle kick of acceleration in order to supply the lightest of cooling breezes*

*emerges into being from a single point in space-time. You know: fwiipp! noise and all that malarky* *thinks today is a perfect day for a spot of bobbing along in a boat on the river* *adds pimms and/or champagne, plus a well-stocked picnic hamper to that mental picture* ahhhhh! :)