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How can you expect to Eat with Grandpa if they have taken up the invitation to Let's Eat Grandpa?

Using Cockney Rhyming Slang Some publications - such as The Currant Bun "SUN" Many examples are based on places in London and could be meaningless to people unfamiliar with the capital, e.g. "Peckham Rye", meaning "Tie" (as in necktie), which dates from the late 19th century;

A call to John Murray, publishers of the book on Childers, reveals that the publishing house's apostrophe obsessive is John Murray himself. "I'm fascinated by apostrophes," he declares. "I'm driven to total distraction by people who put 60's, which means of the year of 60, not of the decade. Suddenly everybody is misusing the apostrophe." However, in the interest of reader friendliness, rigid rules can slip, it seems. "We have our stylebook, but we break the rules sometimes," Mr Murray admits. "A lot of it is a matter of appearance. You don't want to be too pedantic and hold the reader up because something looks odd. St James's looks right [Prince Charles', no Prince Charles's, letterhead retains the usage of St James's] but Childers's one thought looked odd. We set a high standard, but if things hold the reader up, we are prepared to change." Confusing?

Confusious say; A pedant is a person who is overly concerned with formalism and precision, or who makes a show of their learning. Confusious also say; Woman who cooks beans and peas in same pot very unsanitary.

The Trolley man of Saint Francis Park. Just seen that they are chasing the rats at Saint Francis Park, if one should bite your ankle it will leave its teeth mark. They run up the steps passing the men cleaning the cars, look at the legs of the one wearing shorts, covered in scars. Someone said they got here by using the railway track, put a collar and lead on them and take them right back. Over near the food store they are playing with the foxes, jumping in and out of the discarded cardboard boxes. Hiding in & coming out of the coloured large recycle bin, one even had its head stuck firm in the jagged opened tin, another two argue over a prize, drags away a leg of lamb. the younger ones select slices from a stack of cut ham. I saw one holding cakes and scamper into the hedges, another one chooses its meal from the pile of veggies. The trolley man throws at them a plastic litre milk bottle, scared for the moment they run away at full throttle. The kids have started training them to ride their little bikes, mum got quite upset and said come away from the dirty tykes. No dogs are allowed to come into the Park without a lead, how they would love to share some with the rats who feed. You think of the growing of the increase of Grey Squirrel, it is nothing like the rats in fact compared it is quite trivial. Piling all your purchases at cash point is getting so very hard, that is nothing when you find the rat has eaten your Debit Card. The trolley man is told that his four wheels are squeaking, we cant hear ourselves at all now when we are speaking. It is time to bring in the Pied Piper to remove these rats, but we must remember that story and respect all the facts. He might if not made payment take the children for a swim, make sure you have the cash or cheque to handover to him. The reason is attributed to moving away dogs that lived there, that once lived in their big kennel that they all had to share. So the kennel is no longer used once to house that pack, was taken away, but we think it should be brought back. The name of Dog Kennel Hill is now gone right out of date, so has Saint Francis, no one has seen him, about here of late.

What is POSH? poshness n. Word History: "Oh yes, Mater, we had a posh time of it down there." So in Punch for September 25, 1918, do we find the first recorded instance posh, meaning "smart and fashionable." A popular theory holds that it is derived from the initials of "Port Out, Starboard Home," the cooler, and thus more expensive, side of ships traveling between England and India in the mid-19th century. The acronym POSH was supposedly stamped on the tickets of first-class passengers traveling on that side of ships owned by the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company. No known evidence supports this theory, however. Another word posh was 19th- and early 20th-century British slang for "money," specifically "a halfpenny, cash of small value." This word is borrowed from the Romany word p?h, "half," which was used in combinations such as p?hera, "halfpenny." Posh, also meaning "a dandy," is recorded in two dictionaries of slang, published in 1890 and 1902, although this particular posh may be still another word. This word or these words are, however, much more likely to be the source of posh than "Port Out, Starboard Home," although the latter source certainly has caught the public's etymological fancy. It could also refer to the owners of newer buildings that were built with the toilet inside the house, where the older ones had a shed at the bottom of the garden: Position Of Shit House. This might be the reason for the snobbery

My Parents lived in Lordship Lane since 1926, the ambulance took my mother to St Giles HospitaL next to the Camberwell Town Hall where I was born in 1931, I was then taken home to Lordship Lane, where I can claim to be a resident for 79 years. My own oppinion of the Posh places have no atraction for me, they lack any feeling of my belonging, in the old times everybody knew everynbody and trusted them, there is no doubt that now it is a case of lock it up or its gone.

Arhur Mullard's given name was Arthur Mullord Born in 1912 in Islington that he described as the hardest in all of London, Mullard had no fond memories of "the good old days". The dialect of East Dulwich residents has changed over the years as those who choose to live here bring their own and in time take on that of the people around them, to hear a true East Dulwich accent you must be in the company of several elderly having a conversation. I am told that I still have it, I must admit I dont understand a lot of what I hear spoken on the streets nowadays. It is quite easy to pinpoint another Londoner's home area from their speech. If ya kant understand wot I say u got wax in yer ears

As I see it. I have three Wheelie bins. There is a Green bin, a Blue bin and a Brown bin, I get confused about what bin should I use to place my household waste in. My child?s cycle got damaged so it must go in one, should it go in the Green? it cant go in the Blue bin because it is just for paper glass and cans as seen. Should it go in the Brown bin for ground fill? But it will take a time to rust, never mind I heard when the field is full its being taken over by National Trust. I am puzzled who owns the bins, they just arrived here as I gave no signature, I?m told that at all times I am to keep them in and make sure that they are secure. There does not seem to be a number on them or any other way of recognition, so how am I to know that the one I bring back in is my one in clean condition. Keep them on the path leading to your house, never mind space for my pram, what with our bikes there, and those empty milk bottles cause a constant jam. I must put out the bin after seven o?clock, put it on the pavement outside the gate, it wont get emptied if the lid is not shut down on it tight, or if its put out late. There is not much room to pass on the pavement where all the bins now are, some of the parked cars now are getting bumped and the occasional scar. Who is the person responsible for any damaged caused by where its stands, so don't think it?s the Councils fault its pointed out as it is out of their hands. What happens if a Blue Wheelie bin gets damaged, found its beyond repair, just how will I decide how to dispose of it, I am beginning to despair. It is made of Blue plastic that should be for recycling but I?m in distress, just think of all these thousands bins that one day will lose their usefulness. I am going to paint them all to match my house and privet hedge, Light Green, the only way they can tell what colour it is inside is lift the lid then it can be seen. There is talk of prosecutions for wrong items placed into the bins put out today, whether it is just talk that in time it will be disproved as just a case of hearsay. Take your bin in as soon as it is emptied, just pop home from work if you can, or you get a ticket for obstruction from that lurking Cleansing Gentleman. Of course there is a bright side eventually no bin when you meet your maker, it will be a wooden box brought for your disposal by the friendly undertaker. I cant be bothered with all that messing about, I know that it?s a dreadful sin, I go out after my neighbours have gone to work and put my waste in their bin. My other neighbours said they are going to tell what they had seen I?d done, I said I did not mind there is plenty left and they could by all means have some. I might decide they have room inside their bin, but it wont make them very happy, There is a pile of disposable items waiting among the flies, a dozen soiled nappy.

Looking back some sixty six years. The shops that were in this area were very good the stocks were in short supply because of the war on, but never did we base our purchase on what the exterior of the shop looked like. Perhaps a little local history as seen by the writer and the reminder that 23 souls lost their lives here. 5/8/1944 Lordship Lane. Dulwich. This was a very serious V1 incident, one of the worst in South London. The V1 hit the co-op store at the corner of Northross Road in Lordship Lane. The Co-op and 6 other shops were demolished and 20 houses damaged in Lordship land and 40 in Shawbury Road. A Salvation army hall was also damaged. It is stated in ARP reports held in the public records office that damage extended across a 700 yard radius, greater than the normal blast area. This is probably due to the fact that later V1's were packed with a heavier, more deadly warhead. It was also reported that Anderson shelters in the area stood up well to the blast. Bulldozers were called in to clear the debris and one tram track was cleared by 20.30 of the same day. The whole block where the Coop stood has been re-developed with post war shops. The opposite side of Lordship Lane also shows significant signs of re-building as do houses up Shawbury Road. 23 people were killed. My own memory of that day. Shorty Aged 13 years I used to go on Saturday morning as a child to the Salvation Army Hall in Shawbury Road to watch the film shows it cost one penny, and we all sat on long forms, I remember the film breaking down every time we went, we would all ?chi? ike? like mad till it was mended. I lived in Lordship Lane a bit up the road, and came on my wooden scooter made from bomb site nicked wood with ballbearing race wheels taken from old engines, we would all pile them up in front of the hall in a heap and sort them out later, each owner had a number of lemonade crown caps nailed to the front of their scooter so you soon found your one, the wheels made a clonk / clonk as they run over the Portland stone paving slabs. The V1 put an end to our Saturday morning outing. By the end of the war we had 8 V1 & V2?s drop in our road.

As others see us. Just ten days for you to show your hand, you say now? lets get rid of handy Iceland?. The North Pole is in the northern hemisphere, so Iceland should be found quite near. It has been sited near the road of North Cross, why move it away now ? I am at a total loss. A Ninety Nine Pence store might be an attraction, but at Pound Shop would cost more just a fraction. A penny saved in the pocket may not seem a lot, soon they will accumulate to fill up that Piggy pot. Glasses bought there can help with your vision, why pay more elsewhere that is your decision. Please do not leave your trolley in the shopping aisle, to get past a deserted one might take you a while. Who moved the trolley now that it cant be found, might have been those rats, or were they all drowned. Don?t abandon your trolley in the stores car park, a runaway one can make on a car, a dent mark. And when can we get rid of all ugly people about, just take a minute before you start to shout. Go buy a mirror from the store that you selected, take a good look at person that is reflected. Think again on the remark you made so smugly. Could it be you who is the one who is so ugly?

If you put any liquid sealent into your heating system it is likely to block parts that are not at fault, and cost you a lot of money later, if you are going to open your system to put it in, then why not open it at the leaking place it might be just a washer or loose fitting, get it done now before the winter sets in or when a plumber is very busy. There is a drain down point somewhere very low mostly outside the back door of a house, if you did drain the system it might relieve the pressure in the pipe at least it would remove the rust that otherwise will act as a blockage with the sealent added. Dont forget to turn off your heater first and bleed the radiators afterwards.

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Regarding your intention of dumping your girlfriend. You could of course try to explain the predicament that you are now faced with, after a night out with the lads, where it was decided by them that it was time for you to conform to the tradition of your faith. Male circumcision. A public house wooden table in the rear gardens in the dark might not be the best or sterile place to perform this operation, never the less, a cut throat razor was found and a slightly inebriated friend attempted to remove shall we say the onion ring, but the operative tripped over the protruding leg of the table and sliced off the whole onion. A call on the mobile phone brought a Paramedic, who had to stop the flow of blood, he admitted he had never been trained to do this before on this part of the body, he had to keep the onion alive but carried no instrument that could do this, he just placed it back where it had come from, and a drop of Super Glue each side, it did stick in place but so did the rubber glove of the Paramedic, who had to remove the glove to allow the casualties removal to hospital. During the consultation later with the Surgeon who did the operation, it was found that the onion had in fact been replaced at a forty five degree angle to the left, this would take time adjusting to, as if using a Public Urinal the person to your immediate left would become wet, you should therefore turn forty five degrees to your right to be on target of the urinal. As you know it is not possible to turn your right wrist more than forty five degrees with your arm bent across your body, so you must become ambidextrous and use your left hand to position yourself whilst using the toilet. I strongly recommend that you try experimenting standing in the shower with the door shut, you will soon find the angle to stand, once this is found, you can dispose of the newspapers on the toilet floor and replace the toilet roll back on its roller to the left that you had to remove as it got wet. This will take many months to heal and might not regain its proper function ever again. This explained to your Girl you could add; I realise that you cant be expected to continue to be as close as we were, I must respect your decision if you want to break off our relationship, and find a more upright partner to share your life.

Take her for a stroll down Southend Pier, drink your bottle of wine, when you have told her she can push you off into the sea, and then she can put a message in the bottle giving notice of a vcancy as she is now available again.

Pytchley Road development. Pytchley Road Will be to the right of this picture off of Dog Kennel Hill, but now it is changing again. Very early picture only two sets of Tram Lines soon to have additions to make four sets. Picture below.

See picture below shows; The Tram pictured is outside Hornimans Gardens opposite the foot of Sydenham Hill. The bridge was above the junction of Lordship Lane, Wood Vale, London Road and Sydenham Hill. East Dulwich Station was never named as Lordship lane for the simple reason it was not in Lordship Lane but Grove Vale.

Norman Wisdom did in fact serve in three regiments. He first enlisted into the King?s Own Royal Regiment ( Lancaster ) but his mother got him "unenlisted" as he was under age. He later re-enlisted as a Drummer Boy in the 10th Royal Hussars and in 1930 There he gained an education certificate, rode horses, now a Bandsman was posted to Lucknow India. Leaving the Army just prior to the war having improved his diction in the army he took a job as a night Telephone Operator. At the outbreak of World War 11 Norman Wisdom was sent to work in a communications centre in a command bunker in London where he connected telephone calls from war leaders to the Prime Minister . He met he met Winston Churchill on several occasions when asked for updates on incoming calls and once was disciplined for calling him Winnie. He then joined the Royal Corps of Signals and performed a similar function with a military unit based in Cheltenham Gloucestershire. Leaving the Army in 1946. On 28 December 2008, Sky News announced that Wisdom had died, On hearing the news concerned parties enquired about his death at his nursing home, his nurse is said to have found him sitting in the lounge quite well, she remarked we thought you were dead, he replied ?well it don't hurt!? So Norman had the last laugh. Normans Funeral. Residents of the Isle of Man have been given an open invitation to attend the funeral of comedy legend Sir Norman Wisdom, who died on Monday. The service for the 95-year-old comic, who spent his retirement as an Isle of Man resident, will take place on Friday 22 October. A horse-drawn hearse will take his coffin to St George's Church, Douglas. The service will be followed by a private burial ceremony for family and friends. Mourners will be able to pay tribute to the comedian as the cortege will drive along Douglas Promenade starting at its Onchan end at 1335 before the funeral at 1400. A spokesman for Sir Norman's family said there was an open invitation to islanders to attend the service at the church, which holds 500 people, as well as the reception at Sir Norman's Bar in the Sefton Hotel, Douglas.

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Norman Wisdom. We the members of his old regiment the 10th Royal Hussars regret the death of one of our old comrades, there are now no comrades that did serve with him while he served, but he is remembered with affection by all those who came to serve with the 10th Royal Hussars, there is a lot of his army service recorded at the regimental Museum at Kings Royal Hussars Winchester as the 10th Royal Hussars amalgamated with the 11th Hussars in 1969 to become the Royal Hussars, that again amalgamated with the 14th/20th Kings Hussars in 1992 now the regiment is called the Kings Royal Hussars. Norman was always pleased to be invited to attend any Old Comrades Venues. He learned to play so many musical instruments as a Band member in the regiment, and was good at all sports he liked running and was a good boxer. I might have been able to attend as a regimental Old Comrade, if his funeral is held in his former home town of Deal Kent but Peel on the Isle of man is not posible for me. I have the regimental Gazettes and found a picture of Norman as a Bugler in India 1935.

Lordship Lane is East Dulwich's oldest street. It is an ancient thoroughfare that significantly predates the late 19th century developments. Lordship Lane is not a straight Lane it curves and follows the contours to get to the higher ground. Shops that have become a main part have had to adapt to the existing layout, it is not just a Lane but a major cross roads although not in direct line. To make a byepass would mean demolition of some buildings, un underpass is unlikely as it is the lower part of the area just above the water table there, an overpass would be unsightly. My own view would be to use the shops after East Dulwich Grove as retail and general shopping and those between it and Goose Green for non saleable goods shops like Hairdressers, Estate, Agents,and Library. A new town shopping mall is non descript and if it came here Lordship Lane would loose its individuality as a place of popularty.

On the outbreak of the second World War in 1939, the fear that German Parachutist's would land in the London area, and use the infomation shown on signs, so most of the direction Sign Posts ( Finger Pointing Posts ) were removed to be stored in the local Council Dept. The Borough of what was then the Borough of Camberwell consisting of just Camberwell, Peckham and Dulwich. The signs from East & West Dulwich, were taken to the Grove Vale Depot serving SE 21 & SE 22, this was at Vale End a Cul-de-Sac alongside of the railway track on the right approaching the bridge at East Dulwich Southern Railway Station, here they remained for years. The white wooden posts did get replaced in the Village & West Dulwich. Most of the road signs now are made of metal with one end made as a pointer in the direction of the place named on the sign. Over the years local places have been demolished or the name changed, street names have been changed or no longed exist, dropped pavements now go nowhere, lights that were positioned in a place, signs still displayed point to what was there once. These still exist but it would cost you the rate payer to have them removed, if brought to the attention of the authority concerned. Are you an observant person? Can you tell us where any one of these are?

The tenants that got to live in the Prefabs were families mother & children returned from evacuation away from London, father now demobilised from the Forces, on return up to now still living separately with relatives in cramped homes. My own observation was this. On arrival at their Prefab with just the few belongings salvaged from their bombed out home, these items had been looked after by relatives or neighbours up to now, a street traders vegetable barrow hired from the local shop arrives outside the prefab pushed by the newly reunited family, unloading the rolled up horsehair mattresses that did not get damaged, the iron bedstead ends with brass knobs on, two side irons, the 12 inch deep small spiral spring bed base that with constant use now sank in the middle, various blankets and stripped flock filled pillows, cooking pots and pans oddments of crockery, but very little clothing, a table and odd chairs two battered suitcases, a pram and many brown carrier bags, it did not take long to move in, Dad beckoned Mum back out to lift her up and carry her in. I cant say if it was cosy to live in it certainly was compact, the metal windows glazed with single glass would not stop the cold, the outer walls had no insulation or the roof cavity had no fibreglass layers to keep the cold out. No central heating only a fireplace that if a fire was lighted a back boiler warmed water to the sink, luxury the toilet was inside! If a fire had warmed a cold evening the glass windows would run with condensation later to freeze over. If you consider that all houses had suffered some damage to the windows in the bombing so very few windows anywhere fitted good enough to keep out the cold. All the prefabs had a garden something that was unheard of pre war these soon got grassed over or a vegetable plot was sown and a bean climbing frame erected. Lots of little garden sheds appeared made of reclaimed house room doors still painted in various colours, soon the clothes line between the two posts were filled with washing, the occupants put their own mark on their Prefab the cat came to stay, a dog next door to bark at it, mum could now lean on the garden fence to chat to the neighbour and call out to those others in the row. There returned the bond of those now in a community where all were equal. I have always thought that those tenants were very happy and reluctant to leave when the time came. Times changed and in later years the local authority had to offer the sitting tenant of over ten years the opportunity of purchasing the Prefab at a reduced price, most were sold for just a few hundred pounds. Those owners that remain have taken the opportunity of lining the outer walls with insulation board, filling the roof cavity with Fibreglass, and fitting secondary double glazing to the windows, and fitting central heating and updating the electrics. The value in to days prices? A freehold Bungalow on a plot with its own garden in Lordship Lane. Comparing the price of adjacent houses I would hazard a guess at ?300.000. This Site was bombed in the night just a few houses from where I was living, I was allowed to go to see the damage in the morning, the plot where the two prefabs still remain was a house occupied by our local Doctors Doctor Hunter & Doctor Pitman, they had only just moved there from the corner of Landcroft Road and Pellett Road, they then moved to the corner of Townley Road facing the clinic, where we got our Gas Masks. I like the Prefabs as they hold so many memories for me, its Sixty three years ago and I can still say I helped build that! There are not many of the people who remember them being built now.

Having worked on the bombed damaged houses from 1945 for two years then continue to Prefabs later two storied sectional houses then new houses I have a little knowledge of time factor involved. At most only a part could be built. The claim to build a complete Prefabricated Bungalow in a day is not possible. The sites that most of the London Prefabs were built on were occupied by former buildings, these remains having been removed and the cellars and basements plus the crater of the bomb itself filled in and compressed to a stable foundation, did take a considerable time as there was very little construction machinery in those days. The preparation of the site of each Prefab had to be marked and a Datum set (height set to allow draining into local sewer ). Nearly all trenches for drainage were hand dug by Irish Navvies, these were dug first and a pipe was positioned underneath to exit inside the solid foundation base where the toilet would be situated, to be connected later, the trench that was back filled over this pipe, a tool called a jumping Jack was held by an operator that jumped up and the weight of the machine compressed the clay then the hardcore of broken bricks then a layer of ballast, over this a membrane as a damp course, the base was a level single pour of concrete of six inches that was mixed on site in an 18/12 Mixer, and by wheelbarrow into the preformed base area made to shape for the Prefab that had been made by using reinforced steel lengths called formers these were secured in position with iron pegs and locked in position, and the height adjusted to true level again. The damp course that had to be placed under the exterior walls was of bright copper, it protruded out and was bent down to protect the concrete base from water penetration, in those days there was always a night watchman on each site or this would soon have vanished, and no site had any hoarding to keep out the public. The type of Prefab we had to erect was made of Asbestos, sections about four foot wide eight foot tall an inch and a half thick the windows Galvanised Crittel with small glass panes, a porch over the front door. Some of the inside cupboards were as to day quick assemble the interior doors had to be hung as they did not fit exactly the Cooker sink bath and toilet all fitted into their places, one fire place, the floor had to be covered in a liquid mixture that when spread out with a float tool found its own level as it dried out. The sections of the bungalow came on several lorries, in those days there had not been many large lorries made, mostly old Ex Military ones, and all sections had to be carried across the site by several men, the men that put the parts together laid out the side sections on the ground around the base to make sure each one was the right one as the plan showed. The usual way was to start at the narrow end stand one section of the end wall then a section of side wall, these supported each other, continue adding sections to each alternate wall until a partition was needed this then gave extra stability, when all the walls were positioned the roof support sections were placed on top, the roof sections then lifted and manoeuvred into place, the chimney that had two outlets, the roof had to be covered in three layers of bitumen felt, each sealed together with hot pitch, these hung down into the gutters that had been fitted, a layer of small flint chippings was bedded onto the top layer of felt. The electrics were in the sections and very small light switches in the door frames, the plumbing had to be carried out in the normal way, waste pipes went out through the wall, drains that took the rainwater and sewage had to be trenched across the site to the main sewer in the main road. The Electric and Water had to be trenched to each Prefab. The inside and out side painted, a number allotted and screwed under the letter box. Concrete paths were laid again using the steel formers, and wooden fences erected to give each a garden of their own. If you look at the time that all those men had to work at their own trade in the correct sequence not getting into each others way and allowing for concrete base and roof bitumen and paint to dry, you will understand the claim of a one day job is not accurate. At this time I had taken up the offer of an Apprenticeship of Carpenter with Greenaway & Son the Lordship Lane Builder, and had to attend the then named Brixton School of Building once a week and evenings. The School later got a new name South London Polytechnic it was at Stockwell Green. I am grateful of the opportunity that gave me the early footing to progress until I retired.