I live on champion hill, i really don't give a sh!t whether it's dulwich, peckham or camberwell frankly Alan. Doesn't bother me one iota. All i know is I have a host of nice places to eat nearby in most directions, lots of nice pubs, it's quite green, Camberwell is photogenic, but frankly large parts of it are really quite unpleasant. To betray something I'd have to have some loyalty in the first place; sorry bud, but I don't. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about it and I can't quite work out why, but if you like i'll get Vance and Owen down and we can sort something out, draw up some new silly maps, or I could hang about at the top of the hill with a dragonov gunning down old ladies, territorialism usually seems to end up down that path. I've some fascinating photos of Sarajevo if you want to see them. Those Novi Grad types didn't like those Zelecnica types much either.