Eileen

skyblue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eileen you are doing amazing things. Did you read > that the new York times has said Peckham is > London's 'cool kid hide out'. The piece in last > Fridays evening standard about shoreditch > mentioned Peckham too. Rye lane is in need of a > rework- the train station square should help > massively and the east london line will too ( as > an aside I think that the number of bookmakers in > any area should be limited. The hope pub on rye > lane turning into a bookies was terrible.) Thanks for this. Do you have a web link for the New York Times article? It would be great to get that for the website. I agree so much about the bookmakers. They need to be controlled. People are trying to raise this up the political agenda - our own Lane ward councillor Rowenna Davis being one of them, see here. All of us who want to stop the gambling industry giants ruining peoples' lives, and not paying their fair share of tax to pay for the damaging consequences of their deadly product, I hope you will support the campaign.

skyblue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ibilly99. I agree re shoreditch. Your photo is > wonderful. It is awful how peckham has been > ignored. Does any know what is going to happen to > the eagle wharf old whiten timber site? Would be > an excellent community arts space. Hi Skyblue - this is just the kind of question which will get some form of answer at the exhibition from 4pm before the meeting at 7pm on 14th March, or if there is time during the meeting. Whitten Timber?s old site is in the PNAAP (Area Action Plan) now out for formal consultation and there will be a council officer there to talk to people about all those details and with much material from the PNAAP. I do encourage anyone who has any questions about the planning of individual sites or any policy matters about the future of Peckham to try to come to the exhibition as it is a rare chance to talk to officers about such things. I will be there and will be happy to talk also about the history of several sites in the town centre that I have been personally involved with over the last 35 years, including that one...

ontheedge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fantastic work you're doing,it has been sad to see > some buildings go in my time in the area such as > Austins &The Heaton Arms which I always thought > was a beautiful building. yes I agree on these two. I really miss Austin's - my house is full of furniture from there in the 1970s. It was such a treat to go in every time, climbing higher after wandering through each floor, getting nearer the ones I could afford at the top, everything always so interesting! If it had remained just a few more years it probably would have done a roaring trade with the changed demographics in this whole area.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The view from the top of the Bussey is great too. Yes it is a great view. It is two floors higher than the multi storey car park so even better than the excellent view from there during the summer Bold Tendencies exhibition and Frank?s caf?. Since we started campaigning in 2006 to save the whole site from demolition, to be locked up as a secure transport depot, we have had some enjoyable and memorable events in the summer on the roof. Here below is a picture from one of the earliest in 2007, and more here and here http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/thumb/4/40/CLF_Weekender%2C_Aug_07_3.jpg/400px-CLF_Weekender%2C_Aug_07_3.jpg

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have just discovered the Bussey! What an amazing > space. I had no idea it had a theatre space and a > cafe! The Bussey building is huge. See the picture below, and other pictures here (scroll to end of page). It already has over 60 artists studios, as well as the CLF Art Cafe now on three floors, and another theatre company The Last Refuge just taking up a couple of spaces in the Bussey building and next door on the Copeland site between the Son Gallery and the Hannah Barry Gallery (the one storey buildings in front of the Bussey in the picture). There are a number of other embryonic projects developing. This is a commercial space so there is a turnover on the site, and a lot of potential space to accommodate new ventures. http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/thumb/9/90/Bussey_Building_from_south.jpg/450px-Bussey_Building_from_south.jpg

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Beautiful as it is, do you reckon anyone will > actually bother using it once it's done? Serious > question, as I just can't really see myself > bothering, so have to wonder if it's a bit of a > waste of money. We have had hosts of requests and suggestions to use the space for a wide variety of activities. We are developing a business plan for a community company to get a lease from Network Rail. This is a long way off yet as substantial work still needs to be done to complete the restoration. So there is still time to develop the ideas. Our focus for the moment is to wend our way through all the byzantine proccesses to get the space physically restored and accessible from the forecourt without going through the station. We are still working to try to achieve that stage for this summer for some initial temporary use during the Cultural Olympiad. The next step towards this will be the unbricking of the windows on the ground floor in the tower in the forecourt, to the left of the door into the ticket hall. This will start we hope in the next few weeks, and will reveal the original staircase - see below, and here and here for pictures. This needs cleaning up but is in generally good condition. It needs to be extended by half a flight to bring it into the south east corner of the Old Waiting Room. This is more substantial work. However all permissions have now been granted for this so it will begin sometime soonish. The latest on progress will be reported at the meeting on 14th March. http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/2/28/1._Peckham-Rye-Stairwell-13_600.jpg

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it would be wonderful. > > On a selfish aside, where will my dentist be > going? (It's the one right opposite the present > entrance) Hi Peckhamgatecrasher - The whole process hasn't really started yet. We hope that the Council will develop a clear and sensitive way to support all the businesses in that immediate area as there will be uncertainties until the plans are settled. Can you come to the meeting and raise this very relevant question? That will be a good way to show there is a community demand for clear and sensitive action for the businesses and their customers.

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > aha Eileen! Now I see my confusion. I had glimpsed > 'the spike' surplus scheme with the workhouse > behind it and thought they were the same and had > access though those gates onto the railway line. > Has the workhouse building always been flats > then? Hi Huggers - The workhouse closed as a hostel for the homeless some time in the 1970s/80s. It was then converted into housing after that. I don't know exactly when.

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ive just found the old spike too! I had glimpsed > it through the hoardings on Consort Road but had > no idea it was actually on a proper road and > accessable- now developed into flats- such an > awesome building completely unknown to me during > its 'alternative arts' incarnation as a squat, > even though I'd lived within a mile of it for ten > years. > Hi Huggers - I agree it is a fantastic building accessible from the north end of Gordon Road, beside the railway line. But when you say *its 'alternative arts' incarnation as a squat* do you mean a squat in those large original workhouse buildings that you have seen off Gordon Road, or the recent Spike Surplus Scheme of the last 10-15 years which was evicted just 3 years ago? The Spike Surplus Scheme was on the small piece of land between the railway lines which is adjacent to and was part of the old original Spike. It is accessed through the gates between the railway lines on Consort Road. Spike Surplus were evicted because the Council said they wanted to sell the land for housing. The last time I looked it seemed to be a lorry park or some such use. The whole sad saga was an example of bureaucratic myopia missing the real value of what was happening there.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I seem to remember the old waiting room from back > in the mid 50's > Old Fox Hi Old Fox - can you recall if it looked like what it does now - see the photo above? We'd be very interested in your memories if you can tell us about them. And also if you remember it being closed down and bricked up, and what people might have thought about that?

http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/2/20/10.06_Peckham-Rye-Waiting-Room-05_small.jpg Here is a photo of the Old Waiting Room above the ticket hall at Peckham Rye station. It was bricked up for possibly 60 years until we managed to persuade the Council it would be safe to unbrick the windows and put the glass back in. That opened the way to a smallish CGS grant in 2008. We had a good idea that once we started letting everyone see what was hidden behind the grime and in the shadow, revealing the historic spaces and the beauty of the fabric, it would make other things move. So it has. We got the Royal Court to the Bussey building in Peckham last year because they spotted the Old Waiting Room. When they couldn't have that we managed to persuade them the Bussey would do as well. Since then more theatre productions have found their way to the Bussey. Just the start. One thing can lead to another. Come to the meeting on 14th March to find out where we have got to and where we are going. We need community support to show this needs to continue as a community led project.

edhistory Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Extract from clearer photo. > This give a better idea of the decorative > metalwork. > John K Hi John - thanks for producing this picture. Would you post the whole picture so that we can see it all? I'd like to have a copy to add to our collection as clearer than the ones I have.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?20,file=44636 > On what year your picture dates back, Ed? The copy I have is labelled 1870 but that can't be taken as gospel. It was probably near the early part of its life after it became operational in 1865/66.

http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Rye_Lane_Station_1880.jpg Here is Peckham Rye station as it was when built in the 1860s. The front of the building as seen here is almost intact but many don't even see it as it is so obscured by the buildings and clutter in front. This space will be reopened now sometime in probably the next 2 - 4 years' time, revealing the building like this. The details are not yet even on the drawing board. But what is known will be reported at the meeting on 14th March. The reopening of the space will be accompanied by redesign and improvement of the whole street scene and street furniture in that central part of Rye Lane between Elm Grove and Blenheim Grove and possibly further. As you look at this picture, see the ground floor windows to the left of the station entrance. These are the ones that will be unbricked in the next few weeks to reveal the listed stone and metal original staircase.

hi - does anyone know how to post a picture in the thread so it is visble? I have emailed admin on the forum but can get no reply. If you do please PN me so I can get some pics on display. Thanks

The original square in front of Peckham Rye station (see picture attached) is to be restored. This is made possible by funding coming this year from the London Mayor via the GLA to add to funding agreed by Southwark Council for a few years? time. Discussions on the details for all this are now starting. Meanwhile the work on restoring the Old Waiting Room (OWR) above the ticket hall is about to become visible again with the unbricking of the windows on the ground floor to reveal the wonderful original stone and metal staircase. That will be followed by extending the staircase by half a flight to reach into the Old Waiting Room. The scaffolding, that has just gone up, is to repair the leak in the roof and then to repair the floor damaged by the leak. Then folks, the OWR will be accessible again from the forecourt without having to go through the station. We (Peckham Vision) have exciting plans and proposals to complete the restoration of the room, and to restore some of the other historic buildings in the town centre. These and other plans will achieve some of the transformation many of us locally have discussed and explored for so long. But without those discussions we would not have been ready to take advantage of the new funds when they unexpectedly became available. Always faithful to the Girl Guide motto - Be Prepared! There will be an exhibition, from 4pm on Wednesday 14th March 133 Rye Lane, (in the Bussey building - also part of the current renaissance), which will give visitors the chance to get the background and catch up on all the news. The meeting that evening 7-9pm will update us all, celebrate the significant achievements over the last year, and discuss the future developments and opportunities. Further info on the event here. Please come and support our community effort. Posting queries or comments in this forum topic will help to contribute to the discussion. To join the local residents mailing list to keep up to date, please email [email protected]

Hi Huggers - as this affects you so directly and you have already been in touch with Tom Buttrick, if I were you, I would contact him ASAP to make sure he knows what is being said in this Forum and ask him if it is true. He needs to check it out again, if he hasn't done so for some time.

Alec John Moore Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I seem to be the only one who clears the snow done > my street so it makes me wonder how useful my > efforts are. I did make a start on it today and > then it snowed again! I'll give it a go again > tomorrow if fresh falls of snow are not forecast. it is really worthwhile to clear the snow even if it snows again. If the snow has been cleared once it means that if it snows again it sometimes doesn?t lie so much. Even if it does, it is much easier to clear as it hasn?t got the hard ice under it. So the best approach is to try to clear the snow as soon after it has fallen as possible - even during a snow fall if you aren?t going to be around for a long time afterwards. I think I am the only person who clears in front of my house in my street. I keep hoping others will take the hint, especially where there are children in the house - good exercise for everyone, and good role models for simple easy ways to think about other people. Thrilled to hear of the snow clearing in Gowlett Rd ? just round the corner from here. Great work! If this goes on, and certainly for next winter, can we lobby for grit distribution so we can scatter it ourselves on the roads? They are skating rinks already and I fell yesterday crossing the street outside my house.

Anna27 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > but the ELL extension will serve DH and Peckham to > Battersea! - then on to Clapham Junction! I don't think so. The new ELLX will go from Denmark Hill to Clapham High St then Wandsworth Road and then Clapham Junction and not via Battersea Park. So there will be no rail link from this area to Battersea Park. > > the only service lost will be direct London > bridge-Victoria, the ELL will cover most of that > route and all stations along the route will > benefit from greater frequency South Bermondsey and Queens Rd Peckham will also lose their direct link to Victoria > > for example at the moment honor oak park has a > train north every 5 mins - used to be every 10. > quicker change onto the tube than going into > london bridge platform 16 then walking into the > underground as well The ELLX to Clapham Junction will be at most every 15 minutes not the same frequency as the Honor Oak Park line.

there is an amazing clear view of the Shard already from Peckham town square beside Peckham Library. It is in a direct line!

EDmummy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, with well over 50% of my street containing > residents 70yrs plus, the rest of the residents > would need to clear their path? I have no problem > doing it for my immediate neighbours, next door > and across the road (all bar one over 60) but I am > not sure I could do half of the rest of the street > on a daily basis. > well while it is undoubtedly true that some people over 70 (and some under 70) can't clear their own paths, it is not safe to assume that in other or most streets none can! It doesn't have to be 100% to make a huge difference if those who can, do. It can be enjoyable to clear snow after it falls and see how the ice doesn't form. All we need is for the general default position to be that people clear their paths, accepting that some can't, rather than as it is now that it is an annual search for why people shouldn't or can't, rather than just doing it. Probably most can, if the default position shifts. > Not sure what I am complaining about really, no > one from the Council cleared our street last > winter (even though a request was placed because > of the demographics) and the predominantly older > residents of my street were housebound. I did > shopping for the ones I knew and can only hope the > rest had relatives or friends who could also help.

v_the_gelfling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A lot of people on my street already sweep leaves > from outside their house, we do it from ours once > a week. I don't recall the council shifting any of > the snow from our pavements last year though, the > roads, yes but pavements no. So not really sure > what's being gained out of 'everybody' doing it.. It is perhaps more that if everyone, who can, will clear the snow before it gets trodden into ice, then it is easy to keep the paths clear to prevent people falling and hurting themselves on ice. It is so easy to do before it gets walked on. My neighbour slipped and smashed very badly the bone in his arm last winter just because of ice outside someone?s house. The Council cleared no snow or ice in our street - paths or road - throughout the weeks of snow fall last winter. So doing it here wouldn?t cost anyone a job and could save much pain and anguish. I grew up in the NE of England and it was standard practice to clear the snow outside our houses. It used to be here in Peckham too when I came here in the 70s. I still do it. It takes just a few minutes as well to clear some of the paths in front of the two adjacent houses. It wouldn?t take much for the whole street to be cleared with some doing a bit more for those who can't for whatever reasons. I am thrilled that this is now a topic for debate.

louisiana Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hey, Eileen, thanks for linking up :) > (There's often too much of the one group not > knowing what other groups are up to > linking up > good.) > Do you have (informal?) links with Transition > Peckham, by the way? Just trying to understand the > lie of the land... Yes the PTC Forum links and covers all groups and individuals with a contribution to sustainability. > > (Hmm, I think Admin might end up moving all this > to the Lounge. Please forgive, Admin: we'll get > back onto Dulwich straight away, promise.) Because of this I will reply further by Private Message (PM). If anyone else wants more info please check out Peckham Town Centre Forum and the info about its meetings or PM me for more info.

peterstorm1985 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I presume everyone has read this > Bakerloo extension paper This is going to be discussed at the Southwark Transport Consultative Group on Wed 8th December 6pm at the Town Hall Peckham Road. If you are keen on the idea come along!

Hi - just want to make a link between Dulwich Going Greener with what some of us are doing in Peckham. Through the Peckham Town Centre Forum, we have been linking up community initiatives which can contribute to sustainability (ie going greener). To join the mailing list for this please email [email protected] mentioning the Town Centre Forum mailing list. A major thing to focus on for us is the development of the Peckham & Nunhead Area Action Plan (PNAAP). We have been working with the planning policy officer and as a result the Council has arranged two events this month in the Bussey building, 133 Rye Lane that are very relevant to this: Saturday 27th November 12.30pm to 3.30pm and Tuesday 30th November 6.00pm to 9.00pm The session is being repeated to maximise chances of attending. They will be informal sessions. People may come for part of the time if they wish. There will be displays and information on the key emerging preferred options for the PNAAP. This is a great chance to become informed enough to make useful comments and including how we can make Peckham and Nunhead sustainable over the next few decades. Hope everyone who is interested in either going greener or in Peckham town centre or both can come to one of the sessions.