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the-e-dealer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They extened all of the trains that used to > terminate at Blackfriars. I just hope that this is > permanent and not just while Blackfriars is > rebuilt. Incidentally since these services were > extended they have become somewhat unreliable. > This service is like it used to be before they > took > Thameslink away from us. I agree we need to try to make this a permanent feature for our rail links. I am told by South Eastern who operate the service through this area that it all depends on the new franchise arrangements to be negoitated. I am trying to find out the timing for them so we can make sure our views are well known for that. If you want to be kept up to date on this join the Southwark Rail Users' Group mail list; email: [email protected] . For SRUG news visit SRUG website on: http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/srug Barry - do you have anything you can tell us about the lead up to the new franchise for these services?

BQC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I cant see Peckham rye on there? At last, there are major plans being developed for restructuring the interior working of Peckham Rye station buildings to make it accessible. We are planning a meeting in the autumn of the Rye Lane & Station Action Group (RLSAG) to hear from the rail companies on this. The station was listed last year, so we will also be having a presentation from Benedict O?Looney, the Peckham Society expert on historic architecture, on the detailed historic aspects and how they can be accommodated in the reconstruction. We will also be hearing from the Council about the latest on the Peckham Area Action Plan process, and a number of activities and ideas which might help to transform that central part of Rye Lane. The RLSAG is an open discussion forum between residents and the various public agencies that affect our town centre. The info on its meeting will be posted here, but if you want to be on the mailing list please email me at [email protected]. You can see some background information on these matters at Peckham Rye Station: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Peckham_Rye_Station Transforming Central Rye Lane : http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Transforming_Central_Rye_Lane An alternative vision for Rye Lane Central: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Visions_for_Peckham#An_alternative_vision_for_Rye_Lane_Central

yes they came to our end of Nutbrook Street as well. I told them to go away without hearing what they had to say. My neighbour told me they were attempting to sell health insurance against swine flu as the NHS wouldn't deal with it properly, and that we should buy it as many of our neighbours had already, or something to that effect. He told them to go away as well. Eileen

TarahC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you so much to everyone! We have put a > deposit down so fingers crossed it all goes > through now and we'll be moving in on 1st August. > We're all really excited! They've even agreed for > me to continue fostering cats for the RSPCA, but > there isn't a spare room so we won't be able to > have more than 1 or 2 that are used to each other, > but that'll be good anyway! Welcome to our area! I live in Nutbrook St just over the roofs of Amott Rd. We are a special enclave, not Peckham nor East Dulwich nor Peckham Rye, but right between all three. It was a big local secret till the East Dulwich Forum was invented and people started to tell their stories about it! When you are settled in, I'd love to come and meet your fostered cats, and talk to you about the cat fostering. Can you PM me so I can explain my interest and set up email contact?

Several people have been asking through the Forum for a local rally against the rail cuts. The next event will be a mass leafleting at Peckham Rye station MONDAY 13th JULY between 7.30am and 8.30am. The media will be invited so we need to make a really good show. If you want to come and take part please email [email protected] and say what time you could get there and how long you could stay. Any help will be great, even if just for 20 minutes or so on your way to work. This is a follow up to the very successful launch of the campaign against the rail cuts on Friday 26 June. It got onto the front page of the South London Press Tuesday 30 June and a double page inside, - still time today to go and buy a copy! The story also made it onto the Sunday ITV Politics show which acknowledged there was a black hole in transport in inner south London. For a local report see: The mass leafleting on 13 July will take place at all the stations along the South London Line as well as Peckham Rye, i.e: South Bermondsey, Queens Road, Denmark Hill, Clapham High Street, Wandsworth Road. If you use one of them but not Peckham Rye, please e-mail [email protected] so I can connect you with that activity. If you have any ideas or suggestions for the campaign ? for supporters to get together and / or to get publicity - please say. The campaign is organised by representatives from local rail and transport user groups including SRUG, the hospitals at Denmark Hill, local elected representatives, and the 4 main political parties, and supported by a wide range of others including community groups, businesses, and large employers. For further information on SRUG visit http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/srug/ and on the campaign http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/rail-cuts

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is my memory failing me or am I right to think > that Tesco had a store in Rye Lane some 30 years > ago or am I confussing it with Fine Fare? I recall a big Tesco somewhere near where the Post Office is now at the south end of Rye Lane. Maybe it closed in the 80s? Just shows how things go in circles.

Applespider Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sakwhita - use the instructions above and email > the info address to get a survey number. > > Eileen - a one day survey when few people know the > risk to the service. That's one way of ensuring > being able to report a low level of interest I > guess! I've asked for my number and will fill it > in asap! Yes you are right. We were astonished, shocked actiually, as we met London Travel Watch just two days earlier and were promised info in advance on the survey so we could alert people. Then we heard about it actually happening by people posting on this Forum. Very disappointing to put it mildly. The survey is happening only because we said that there needed to be a survey of users and their demand for the line, as all the plans to close it have been on the basis of guesswork. And the wording in the survey card is unlikely to have alerted rail users, who haven?t been aware of the issues before now, to the importance of responding. The online survey is now continuing as we protested about the lack of information. But it doesn't get to the rail users not reading this Forum or not on the SRUG email list.

Applespider Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Damn... you can only fill it in online if you have > a card with a survey number. I'll keep my eyes > open for them over the next few days though when > on the trains. There will not be any more cards handed out on the trains, see update on http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,298957 However you can get a survey number and complete it on-line: from the website http://www.railcons.castavote.co.uk/: If you do not have a survey number to enter, please email mailto:[email protected] stating whether you use; Southern services between London Bridge and Victoria Southeastern services between Victoria and Dartford Both of the above Clapham North underground A new survey number will be emailed to you. Thank you On behalf of London Travelwatch

As a result of the campaign against the rail service cuts, London Travel Watch, the official passenger watchdog, have commissioned The Railway Consultancy to do a Passenger Survey of users of the South London Line (the service between London Bridge and Victoria via Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill) and the Dartford ? Victoria service via Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill. We were expecting to be able to comment on the wording but they did the survey without notice on Thursday. However our protests at the lack of information have prompted them to reopen their online survey, which was closed after one day. Please pass this info. on to any other rail users you know. If you use these rail services, please go to http://www.railcons.castavote.co.uk and follow the instructions to get your survey number to be able to complete the survey card questions. This is what it says: __________________________________________________________ If you do not have your survey card to hand and therefore do not have a survey number to enter, please email mailto:[email protected] stating whether you use: * Southern services between London Bridge and Victoria * Southeastern services between Victoria and Dartford * Both of the above * Clapham North underground A new survey number will be emailed to you. Thank you On behalf of London Travelwatch _________________________________________________________ if you have had a survey card on the train, and you have any feedback on it or on how it was being conducted or received, please post comments here.

As a direct result of our campaign against the rail service cuts, London Travel Watch, the official passenger watchdog, have commissioned The Railway Consultancy to do a Passenger Survey of users of the South London Line (the service between London Bridge and Victoria via Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill) and the Dartford ? Victoria service via Peckham Rye and Denmark Hill. We were expecting to be able to comment on the wording but they did the survey without notice on Thursday. However our protests at the lack of information have prompted them to reopen their online survey, which was closed after one day. Please pass this info. on to any other rail users you know. If you use these rail services, please go to http://www.railcons.castavote.co.uk/ and follow the instructions to get your survey number to be able to complete the survey card questions. This is what it says: _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you do not have your survey card to hand and therefore do not have a survey number to enter, please email mailto:[email protected] stating whether you use: * Southern services between London Bridge and Victoria * Southeastern services between Victoria and Dartford * Both of the above * Clapham North underground A new survey number will be emailed to you. Thank you On behalf of London Travelwatch _______________________________________________________________________________ if you have had a survey card on the train, and you have any feedback on it or on how it was being conducted or received, please post comments here.

KoolBananas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is the rally really restricted to an hour? That's the time the MPs and media will be there. It is in the open so we can continue talking but it won't be organised. It sounds from some of the posts that there may be some demand for a real rally meeting type of thing. Could people on here say if that is so and where such an event in their opinion, and day of week and time of day, be the best to hold it? Before that anyway the idea is to do some organised leafletting and petition signature collecting at the stations one morning again to catch media attention), so there will be that chance to join in with fellow rail users. But we will be glad to hear views on a rally/meeting.

Also a really useful and very helpful copy shop, where lots of self employed people from a wide variety of walks of life meet in the course of their copying... It has been going for probably 20 years or more.

Plese see also the thread on the planned closure of the South London Line. This extract below from there is the answer on the timing of this rally which is the big (we hope) media launch dictated by things not under our control. But everyone can help all the time by distributing fliers and collecting signatures. Go to the SRUG campaign webpage to get the info and print them out. http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/rail-cuts The launch rally is being held at Denmark Hill station on FRIDAY 26 JUNE MIDDAY as that was when both local MPs Tessa Jowell and Harriet Harman could be here together locally, and draw the media to help get the campaign heard loudly. There are plans to have other media attractive events at several of the stations. These might be in the early morning rush hours so hopefully all who want to make their presence felt can do that then - come to the station a bit earlier and help collect signatures on the petitions. I will post details when they finalise. But also emails to the Rail Minister and the Mayor and to the local press are all realy important. Take a look at the SRUG campaign page http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/rail-cuts for a summary of all the actions needed, and do them one by one! In the meantime, you can download petitions and fliers from here http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/srug/news Please carry them with you so you can talk to fellow passengers on the trains and the station when you travel, and collect signatures and encourage them to sign up to the mailing list or online at Facebook so we can grow a large number of well informed voices. We need to keep going and adding thousands of us to the lists.

Yes it all does matter. Of course it makes really good sense to put the last piece of the orbital east-west link in place between Surrey Quays and Clapham Junction, with the East London Line Extension 2 (ELLX2). The good news is that it IS really going to happen; the construction work will seamlessly fit in with the completion of the construction of the ELLX1 via New Cross to Croydon. That will open in 2010, and the ELLX2 via Peckham Rye to Clapham Junction will open in 2012. What is wrong with this? It is just that TfL decided, with Department for Transport, that that was more important than our links into London Bridge and Victoria and they could be cut to pay the last bit of the money needed for the ELLX2. This was apparently ?24m over 10 years. That is ?2.4m a year. What is that in the billions on London's transport infrastructure each year? It is almost rounding up book-keeping. That is the decision that needs to be reversed. This campaign aims to achieve that and to make it so clear at last that we here in inner SE London will not stand for our direct rail links to central London being cut. If anything, they need to be improved and we will work for that each year as well. London needs both the good direct rail links from inner SE London into central London AND the orbital link completed. London can afford both, but we will only get them if we all stand up to be counted, and make our collective voice heard at last. The launch rally is being held at Denmark Hill station on FRIDAY 26 JUNE MIDDAY as that was when both local MPs Tessa Jowell and Harriet Harman could be here together locally, and draw the media to help get the campaign heard loudly. There are plans to have other media attractive events at several of the stations. These might be in the early morning rush hours so hopefully all who want to make their presence felt can do that then - come to the station a bit earlier and help collect signatures on the petitions. I will post details when they finalise. But also emails to the Rail Minister and the Mayor and to the local press are all realy important. Take a look at the SRUG campaign page http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/rail-cuts for a summary of all the actions needed, and do them one by one! In the meantime, you can download petitions and fliers from here http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/srug/news/campaign-actions-petition-flier-printing-email-addresses-letters. Please carry them with you so you can talk to fellow passengers on the trains and the station when you travel, and collect signatures and encourage them to sign up to the mailing list or online at Facebook so we can grow a large number of well informed voices. We need to keep going and adding thousands of us to the lists.

Here is the latest news hot off the presses: You are invited to a rally at Denmark Hill station this coming FRIDAY 26th JUNE at MIDDAY. It is the official launch of the campaign to save the South London Line train services to London Bridge and Victoria. The two local MPs Harriet Harman and Tessa Jowell will be there leading the Rally. Lots of media will be present, so do please come and give your support if you are around at that time. Come and get to know other fellow campaigners! ACTION TO COLLECT SIGNATURES & GIVE OUT FLYERS We hope it will gear up the campaign to the next level. Already there are over 1000 signatures on the petition. But we need thousands more. So we need you to spread the word to fellow rail users, and to carry the petition with you to get signatures. See here for petition and flyers to print out to take with you on your travels... http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/srug/news LATEST NEWS A lot has been happening and we will do a round up of news soon. In the meantime we have successfully put pressure on TfL and they now say they will do a review of south London rail services in the next few months. That is just the start of getting this decision to cut services reversed. See here for summary about the campaign: http://www.peckhamvision.org/brg/rail-cuts

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The two main Goose Green fairs have come and gone > for the summmer You are missing out the very enjoyable Goose Green Primary School Carnival festival. This year is it is on Saturday 11 July, midday start, Carnival procession arrives 1pm. Further inforamtion: email [email protected] or call Dagmar (020 7732 3493). A Council arranged dog event is also planned for Satruday 22 August.

Sporthuntor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cheers Charlie, figured there would be more about > it somewhere, glad to get the topic back on the > agenda tho' yes it is very good to get this topic up again. A lot is happening and hope to be able to report in more detail soon. But in the meantime, there are fliers to distribute and petitions to collect signatures on (already have about 500 hard copy and 500 on-line, but need thousands more). We hope all rail users who want to protect our rail services will take part while they are using the trains! We have produced some A6 pocket size fliers to download, print and carry to give out, when travelling, to fellow rail users waiting for and travelling on the very train that is threatened with closure, ie the Victoria-London Bridge via Denmark Hill, Peckham Rye, Queens Road Peckham. See here to download the fliers and the petition

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't help thinking you've been misinformed > Dagmar. I walk on the Rye twice a day and the > sports area is not overused. In the past few weeks > I've seen one javelin lesson, one relay baton > technique lesson, one distance running lesson and > one game of rounders. In each case there were no > more than a dozen girls.> > I appreciate that I'm not there all the time but > nothing I've seen so far suggests overuse. I can't > see that there would be a problem with the boys > using the area as well - it's a pretty big place > and all users seem to rub along well together. > I've seen more activity from joggers using the > track. I've even used it to trounce my daughter at > 100m sprint! I think having a sports area is a > great addition in the summer and it would be > lovely to see it used more by local > schoolchildren. The *overuse* issue is not about quantity but that the ground (ie earth) is overused and can't take more activity without damage. It gets damaged and then has to be closed to all use to recover. > >

lenk Wrote: > > reveal two lovely wildflower meadows full of > > poppies. > > (which someone seems to have picked a few of - > there were a lot more poppies about 2 days ago and > I'm sure they flower for a lot longer than that!) My poppies do usually flower for less than 48 hours so maybe it was a natural disappearance.

ssturges Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is the park especially dodgy? What Is the Area like? Thank you ! Hi ststurges - you may have noticed that some replies refer to the Common and the Park. It's an important distinction that local residents carry from generation to generation, unlike Council officers who generation by generation try to obliterate the distinction... Peckham Rye Park, opened in 1984, is the enclosed land south of the caf? in the middle of the expanse of green, and where part of it is laid out as an Edwardian park, and recently restored. The whole park was created on the land formerly occupied by the Homestead Farm. Peckham Rye Common however has for centuries been open ?common? land for the recreation of the general public. This stretches from the edge of the Park (where the caf? is, which is on the Common itself just outside the boundary of the Park), all the way to Peckham Rye Common North, across East Dulwich Road to the northern tip of the green land which ends at Nigel Road. Hope that is clearer than mud!

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eileen, > > Holdron's was a very large shop which stretched > from the railway bridge near the station all the > way down to the junction with Bournemouth RD and > then half way down Bournemouth RD itself, with an > arcade running from the entrance on Rye Lane right > through the centre of the building and coming out > onto the entrace in Bournemouth RD. Apparantly the > council along with some other parties have been > looking at ways of opening these arcades up for > the use of shops but they have been talking about > this for at least a decade and it all looks to be > the same to me still. > Louisa. Thanks Louisa It is Peckham Vision and the Peckham Society that have been working on this. They have successfully brought it all into the public debate for the Peckham Area Action Plan consultation. Yes, and now the Council is asking for views on how to revive that whole area of Rye Lane along with the large Copeland Quarter behind it. You can find some of the ideas here: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Transforming_Central_Rye_Lane and specifically about the Holdron's arcade: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/images/b/b5/Holdron%27s_factsheet.pdf The current Council consultation is explained here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/futurepeckham Eventually the draft PNAAP will go to a Public Hearing in 2010. Well before then we hope that the Council will be persuaded to work with the property owners to commission proposals for bringing the historic buildings back into prominence along with new developments. We have managed to get to that stage with the ideas for transforming the station, see: http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Peckham_Rye_Station so why not with the land and buildings across the road that are just as full of potential? There are two events in June for anyone keen to know more about all this: * There will be a Peckham Society walk around the Copeland Quarter, Bussey building and Peckham Rye station on Sunday 28 June 2.0pm-3.30pm, see details here: http://www.peckhamsociety.org.uk/events/index.html That will be a great way to understand a lot more about it. * If anyone would like to know more before then they could come to the Peckham Society stall at the Choumert Square Open Gardens Day on Sunday 7th June 11am-4pm where we will have some exhibition material. That is a fabulous annual event and well worth a visit anyway! It is already advertised on this Forum: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?6,268349,268351

Louisa Wrote: he requested some pictures of > Holdron's before he came over because his wife had > her wedding dress made there in 1943. I came > across these other wonderful pictures and some > recent research shows that the old corridors and > shop floor levels remain pretty much untouched > from when Holdron's closed down in 1948. The > council have been looking at ways of re-opening > the building for small shops to use the arcades. > Louisa. Louisa - do you mean the Holdron's that was on Rye Lane between Bournemouth Rd and the railway line? If so can you give more detail so I can be sure which buildings you refer to? I have been exploring the shop buildings in that location myself and I am not aware of the Council doing any thing in relation to them in particular. But maybe you are referring to some other shops. Just would like to be sure. If anyone else is doing some work I'd like to be able to contact them.

I remember eating in Sema Thai in 1980 when it was just the front room part of the shop. Then they extended into the back and built the side extension on. I used to go a lot as it was the only place I could find a tasty vegetarian non dairy meal. I went only once since they turned it into the modern all glass front window, and removed the table cloths and wall coverings and carpet so that it seemed noisy now instead of a place you can eat and hear what your companions are saying. But that is based on only one visit. My other long standing memory is SMBS. I seem to have been using them for ever, but can't recall when they arrived in Lordship Lane. Can anyone else remember that?

I have some bird feeders with sunflower seeds. I noticed the other day that the parent birds (probably tits of some kind) were taking a seed off to another smaller bird that had flown with them to the nearby tree or shed roof, presumably growing up baby, and feeding it. I hadn't ever noticed this before. Is this what they do after they have left the nest? I know that baby blackbirds stay on the ground for several days after they have left the nest, and their parents feed them on the ground. The parents change their beautiful birdsong into a raucous grating clacking at that stage, for ever shouting alarms and warnings to keep away from the babies on the ground. Unfortunately the local cats take no notice and usually catch a number of the babies. It seems a perverse growing up process for Nature to inflict on the blackbirds. But somehow each year we always get our beautiful birdsong back during the breeding season. Maybe they would mushroom in numbers of they weren?t culled on the ground. But still not a pleasant experience for them or us! PS I have heard that blackbirds have local accents, as their song slightly varies in different places as they learn it from the local adults! I have just googled and found confirmation for this! see and listen here: http://sounds.bl.uk/View.aspx?item=022M-W1CDR0001426-0900V0.xml# Having listened to this Devon song, I think our Bellenden blackbirds have a much more enchanting and beautiful song! They are in full voice at this time of year and it is a great pleasure to be serenaded by them from the tallest places they can find on the roofs!

theratprincess Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I cycle down Rye Lane every day. A couple of clarifying questions: You wrote: > As regards Rye Lane itself, in my view there needs to be a proper advance stop box at the traffic lights > at the South end of Rye Lane. The raised cycle lane to the left is useless. I make a point of not using it. If > you are not the first one there, bus drivers simply cannot see you and then cut you up as they move off > at the lights. A full advance stop box would solve this. Is this trvaelling from the north down Rye Lane to Peckham Rye, or from the south towards Rye Lane? > The left turn for cars just before the lights is also problematic. A lot of cars turn down there > without looking properly or signalling (probably because they are distracted by the fact that they > are about to go down a no entry). What road is the left turn into?