Loz

I'd be wary. Tripadvisor seems to have more than a few unsatisfied customers.

Sorry Zeban, but there is lots of info out there to confirm my understanding. Here's one site. Your standard domestic cat will dump uncovered if it wants to mark territory. Otherwise ED must be full of feral cats, judging by the number of wars with lawn-crapping cats I've had.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As for wages, interesting that they sell about ten times more Guardians in East Dulwich than any > other paper, yet some of the debate goes into Daily Mail territory (not all I hasten to add). You do understand that the Guardian and the Daily Mail are often just two sides of the same coin? That Polly Toynbee and Richard Littlejohn are both just reactionary bigots?

Cats only bury their poo in deference to another cat or to a human they recognise as their owner. Otherwise, they will leave it uncovered to mark the territory as theirs. Usually smack bang in the middle of the lawn, in my experience.

"Silent Roar" from the Dulwich Garden Centre (and lots of other places). It's basically lion poo, which tells the other cats that a sodding big cat controls the area and they should crap elsewhere. Works a treat. Not cheap though.

Song of Solomon 5:4 (King James Version) My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.

I think the level of intransigence in our society curbs and curtails the true levels of work actually done. we really need numerous holistic based techniques to truly meet the greater need for the greater good. if ever the new is to replace the old, then surely the time is now? various arrays of nefarious thinkers have done nothing but fail us. only by taking a aggressive stance to the lessons of history will we ever understand the true nature of the total gaps in the field of knowledge. the inconsequential have failed us.

Look, I'm a supporter of gay marriage, but hasn't the council got better things to do? Like stuff actually within its control?

Not quite. Yummy Mummies is what they (usually) delusionally call themselves. MILF status is bestowed by a third party.

Does that even logically follow Hugo's comment?

Anyone who follows the advice of ANY politician is an idiot.

Is is a one off aberration? Or a signal that voters are starting to say 'a pox on all your houses' to the main political parties? Will that be good news for the Tories, as Labour is more likely to lose their core vote if that happens (UKIP excepted)? And what of the Lib Dems - they lost their deposit in the by-election. Will dumping Clegg be a way back?

Maude's an idiot and has rather brilliantly turned a non-crisis into a crisis, but he is not responsible for another complete idiot pouring petrol from one container to another right next to a lit gas cooker. Alternatively, if Maude is at fault, so is Unite. But, back in reality, neither were to blame.

OK, I'm confused now. What exactly are the issues on the ACAS table? Is this a Bob Crow style H&S smokescreen that can somehow be miraculously solved by paying higher wages, or is there a real safety issue here?

I think you've been watching too many Bruce Willis movies.

That's be the unions out of business then. Silver linings and all that.

That was back when Matthew Hoggard was bowling. Or Botham was having lunch.

It's to provide welcome relief from the boorishness of football.

OK... 3 - Owns some shares in Marsh Inc insurance brokers and in Zurich Financial Services AG. Whoopee. 4 - Chairman of Chime Communications group, whose companies include Bell Pottinger, and whose lobbying clients include Southern Cross, BT Health and AstraZeneca. Whoopee. Also, a completely unrelated criminal conviction. Eh? Whilst unpalatable, hardly evidence of voting bias. Just some handy mud they found, so they chucked it. 7 - Owns some shares in Reckitt Benckiser. Whoopee. 10 - Owns some shares in Reckitt Benckiser. Still whoopee. 11 - Owns some shares in GlaxoSmithKline. Whoopee. 12 - Chief executive of Huntsworth communications group. Apparently someone from this company once chaired a meeting. Yippee and whoopee. 15 - SHARES IN VODAPHONE!!! You missed that one, UDT. Major league whoopee-doo. 16 - Owns some shares in GlaxoSmithKline. Whoopee. ... etcetera, etcetera. Really, it's not hard to pick up that the list contains mostly pretty poor and desperate stuff. Had they stuck with the various directorships and paid consultants in there, they might have made a nice little case. But no, they had the chuck mud at any and everything. Poor, poor journalism.

Undisputedtruth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sneaky Loz, how you define what constitutes a > meaningful relationship is neither here or there. > The article is very clear on where there are > conflicts of interests amongs the Lords. Oh, come on UDT - I refuse to believe that holding shares in Vodaphone or BT constitutes a conflict of interest. I refuse to believe that holding money in Lansdowne UK Equity Fund, one of the UK's largest unit trusts, is a conflict of interest. I refuse to believe that holding shares in Diageo, an alcoholic drinks company, is a conflict of interest. Cutting the list down was pretty damn easy. This is just a classic mud throwing exercise. You may as well look at all the lords that voted against the motion, find out which ones had ever been, or had a close family member, treated by the NHS and cried 'CONFLICT!!'. It would be as equally pointless. Now, with the 18 I did find there was some real, potential conflicts. But they were hidden in so much meaningless dross that it devalued the entire exercise.

El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hmm, and whilst some of these are tenuous, taken as a whole it begins to hum a little. Tenuous doesn't even begin to describe some of them - I mean, 'has shares in Vodaphone group'? Whoopee doo. I went through the 62 Tory lords listed (couldn't be bothered to do them all) and only 18 I would count as having anything approaching a meaningful relationship with the companies listed, based on the information given. My favourite, which was used twice, was "Shares in Diageo plc an alcohol drinks company who have been awarded money to teach midwives in England and Wales on the dangers of alcohol. No, you can't make it up." Ironically, I think that is pretty much what the article authors did, if they think that is a serious enough link to sway a lord's voting intention.

Bob Dylan once had a girlfriend called Wei Wadi Wei

Oh, quite. You can expect that post-Levenson, Murdoch will be seeking to renew his powers over the political class (of all colours) in the UK. They've been getting a bit confident of late and not doing his bidding, so he'll be keen to slap them down and show them who's boss.

Crimes against music?

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My wife was sure to vote Ken, but reading THIS is making her seriously think twice. Quite. Livingston has a rather unpleasant side that he somehow gets away with.