Loz

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I remember a time when men worked all week and > would bring home their wages and give them to > their wives.. > > She would give him back some 'Pocket Money' for > Beer and Baccy. and manage the home finances with > the rest.. > > This may well of founded the idea of the E.E.C. > and the E.U. > > The E.U suggests we are not capable of managing > our own finances.. > > Stuff the E.U. I'm OUT > > DulwichFox I'm starting to think Foxy is actually some element of a Turing Test.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > IN also sounds like BIN. Where your life will end > up if you vote for it. > > OUT also sounds like ... Ok I give up. Gout?

I'm a committed Remainer but, Jesus wept, Eddie Izzard was absolutely awful on QT tonight. A horrible, shouty embarrassment.

In!

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Of course Sanders should do the right thing and actually unite the party > further but let's see if he eventually gets over himself in time not to be remembered as the man > who refused to concede to first democratically nominated female candidate in US history. Not that I think Sanders is doing the right thing (that should be obvious), but Clinton has not yet been democratically nominated. She does not have enough state pledged delegates (and never will) for a majority, and the superdelegates have yet to cast their vote. The superdelegate numbers that have been appearing in papers are based on various factors and are almost certainly reasonably accurate, but are not results from an actual poll. That happens at the Democratic convention, starting in late July. Which is why another six weeks of pseudo-battle would only just benefit Trump.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LM in any normal circumstances I would say conceding defeat would be the appropriate thing to > do, but considering how unpopular Hilary is both inside the Democrat Party and out in the wider US > electorate, it is the right thing to do. The presidential race is now between Clinton and Trump. Sanders not conceding only helps Trump. How is that the right thing to do as a Democrat? The problem is that Sanders has been a Democrat in name only - almost a flag of convenience. He's never really been part of the party, running under the banner only to get elected. It's not as if Sanders is going to be able to run in 2020 - he'll be 79 by then. He's staying in for his own benefit only as one last hurrah. Even though his lasting legacy to will be to have been the man who helped Trump become President. Another Ralph Nader. So, don't be too surprised if this 'man of principle' goes back on his word and tries to run as an independent or tries to be adopted by one of the minor parties.

KKK?

What did Donald Trump get for his birthday? Bernie Sanders.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There are plenty of far left "leavers". They're just as bat shit crazy as the far right ones, but > for very different "reasons". I think the most interesting part of the whole referendum is that, even with the mixture of left/right on both sides, traditional traits are showing... that is, the right fib outrageously and the left call anyone that doesn't agree with them names.

root Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Loz Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > root Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > Actually you summed it up. The only reasons to > > leave the EU are racist and xenophobic. > > > > As a solid Remainer, I would say that calling the > > other side names really doesn't help. > > merely stating a fact. It's either ultra > nationalism, or xenophobia, or breaking free from > . There's not much else. Only if you take the extremist view of subjects where there can be hugely differing degrees of disparity. I think a country should keep a semblance of its culture and should have some control over its borders. And 'breaking free of environmental regulations' isn't, as far as I've seen, ever been an issue. So, no, you are not stating facts. At all. I think you're looking at things in far too much a black-and-white view. There are many shades of grey to a lot of the issues. And, again, I say all that as a Remainer.

root Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually you summed it up. The only reasons to leave the EU are racist and xenophobic. As a solid Remainer, I would say that calling the other side names really doesn't help.

Don't worry - you aren't anywhere near the first person to have asked that question.

Your own posts will never show the red 'new'. The software assumes you read it before you posted!

pato Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I m not English but have been living in this country long enough to understand that leaving > Europe will be plenty of risks for You and none of this risks are worth taking... > > It might be better for You or not but why taking the risks?? Or, more succinctly put...

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Therefore as mentioned bandishing a percentages for a larger body (the EU) compared with a smaller > body (the UK) isn't a valid statistic > > Nice try but no cigar Loz (not even an imported EU one ! ) For reasons explained, of course it is meaningful. In fact, hard numbers in this case are meaningless as it won't show effect. Think of it this way. Two people lose ?100,000 each in a failed business venture. One is an average person with a mortgage and a few quid in the bank, the other is Bill Gates. Does the hard monetary figure really explain the actual effect on each person, or would a percentage of their total worth be far more illuminating? It's the same here - the monetary figures you are quoting don't show the effect on each economy. Your figures are, essentially, meaningless. And that's a quality, British built meaningless!

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Percentage often hides the real numbers > > What is the actual amount in pounds shillings and > pence > > 8% of a billion, for example us a lot more than 44% of ten thousand, therefore don't quote > percentages but real monetary terms .. > > There are lies, damn lies and statistics Quite often I'd agree, but in this case the percentages are the more pertinent as they show the effect on each economy. Put it this way, if trade between the UK and the EU stopped tomorrow, which economy would be far, far more effected?

> Recently for obvious reasons it's been Purple Rain, but not the whole song, just the high > pitched Ooo oo oo ooo bit at the end. When I spent about a month in Vienna a couple of years ago, I had the obvious Ultravox song in my head for a couple of weeks. But, like you, not the whole song, just the baseline. Dum Dum. Da Da Dum Dum. Psssh. Dum Dum. Da Da Dum Dum. Psssh. Dum Dum. Da Da Dum Dum. Psssh.

Well, my vote went in the post today.

Salsaboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Vista here too. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Windows follows the Star Trek rule - every second one is poo.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When it comes to Dolly & Kenny LIVE 'there can be only one' > > I always rather preferred the original Bob Seger version of that one. Always sounds rather strange as a duet.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are the third largest customer apparently (and > that was in 2005), I think they need us more than > we need them....so I'm voting to leave... 44% of UK's exports go to the EU. 8% of the EU's exports go to the UK. I think you've grossly misunderstood who needs who more.

36,000 of them are probably from Google telling you that you are out of storage space! Happy deleting, Karen.

Are you using an app? Have you tried going directly to the Google Mail website and checking what is happening there?

Cedges Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Its been there years - who cares - move on and spend our tax payer money dealing with things that > actually matter please. The problem is that this sort of thing sets precedents. If more people decide to put up advertising boards and charge rent for them, they will use this one and say that the council tacitly approved it via inaction.

Will the council accept that excuse for parking? "You overstayed the limit" "Yeah, but I didn't cause much harm" "Oh, Okay then. I'll cancel the ticket.".