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It seems like a very great deal of money was available to the defence. Including a large reward offered for evidence? I don't know all the details, but from what I have read I think a very dangerous precedent seems to have been set in allowing a victim's previous sexual activity to have a bearing on a case of alleged rape. I thought the law had been changed to prevent this? I hope that there were very good legal reasons for it in this case, because on the face of it it seems that someone who can afford it has paid shedloads of money to get himself off the hook. I hope I'm wrong and that the victim was not telling the truth, but I know what my gut feeling is at the moment. I haven't read the rest of this thread though. ETA:. Ooops just read a bit of it so apologies for jumping in if all this has already been discussed :(. I'll read the rest later.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I met my love, by the gas works wall... Were you singing in there, or are you referring to the after effects of the curry? :))

DulwichFox Wrote: -------------------------------------------- > > I took bottles of Peroni. ?1.10p from Tesco. Why > go to HB&B and pay ?3.50+ for a small bottle of > beer. Because it's a lot nicer?

I never answer my landline any more. The answering machine kicks in and if it's a bona fide call the caller starts speaking and I can hear who it is and pick it up.

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How good is this place? Is it two exclamation > marks good or just one??? Four or five, according to the OP!!!!!!!!!!

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Indeed. Lots of bookshops bemoan the fact that, > for many people, they're a three-dimensional > browsing space for Amazon. You'd have to be quite strong-willed if it was books, though, at least I would. Delayed gratification is hard if you have the actual book there in front of you and it isn't exorbitantly expensive.

:)) Won't be able to come again till December. We have a gig on the second Thursday of the month, apart from July, August and December.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ah, I'd have to respectfully disagree there Sue - > my only gripe with Bob getting the prize is that > Laughing Len hasn't too many years left and they > probably won't now give it to another songwriter > for a decade or more. > > Now the courtroom is quiet, but who will confess. > Is it true you betrayed us? The answer is Yes. > Then read me the list of the crimes that are > mine, > I will ask for the mercy that you love to > decline. > And all the ladies go moist, and the judge has no > choice, > a singer must die for the lie in his voice. > And I thank you, I thank you for doing your duty, > you keepers of truth, you guardians of beauty. > Your vision is right, my vision is wrong, > I'm sorry for smudging the air with my song. Yeh, fair enough, I think I was thinking more of his actual poetry rather than song lyrics. I was bought a book of it one Christmas. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for it.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Cover up the fireworks prior to lighting them > > > > When I was a kid, someone else's rocket landed > in > > the firework box and we had an unexpectedly > brief > > (but splendid) display :) > > That was probably a real danger (setting off the > whole box near to people) > Indeed. Particularly because all the fireworks were in a large cardboard box. It was in a neighbour's garden and everybody had brought fireworks to contribute, so there were quite a lot of them in said box. And unfortunately the rocket landed rather near the beginning of them being set off .... (set off as planned, I mean of course) Another year, a rocket fell out of the sky and landed on my sister's head. Luckily she was wearing a woolly hat :)) I think it got a bit singed, can't really remember whether the rocket was still burning ....... But it was always great every year going to the local shops which sold fireworks and spending ages choosing them.

Blind Willie McTell Just blew me away when I first heard it, on a bootleg. Still gives me goosebumps. ETA: Ha ha. Just looked at the beginning of this thread, and it seems to have been my fave Dylan song in 2010 as well :))

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- It's perfectly > possible to describe Dylan as a poet performing > the poems he's written down, he just happens to > add a bitching guitar track to the performance. It's interesting, because I think Dylan's lyrics work in their own right without the music, whereas Leonard Cohen's "poetry" is in my opinion terrible, though I like many of his songs because the music and the performance add so much to the lyrics.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Run out of beer... Could not be bothered to go > out for more.. > Crikey, Hop Burns and Black is just a few doors away, isn't it?!

Bony Fido Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I often use an app called QuickMark to scan > barcodes on goods that interest me while going > around clothes shops etc. > The app uses the phone's camera to scan the tags - > seems to be a legitimate use of the camera's phone > and likely to benefit the shop in the long run, > assuming I subsequently purchase an item that I've > previously scanned. > > Thus a blanket ban on use of cameras in store > could be counter productive. Presumably a bit of > discretion when actually photographing/filming > would be best i.e. make sure staff are not > watching... But surely most (or at least many) would be photographing items in stores and/or their barcodes in order to then go off and try to get said item cheaper online or in another shop?

So what was the verdict? Any good?

Cover up the fireworks prior to lighting them When I was a kid, someone else's rocket landed in the firework box and we had an unexpectedly brief (but splendid) display :)

His lyrics are brilliant, and as songs they are even more brilliant. In my opinion the prize is well deserved. Great choice. ETA: And he has written a book, though not a "literature" one. He has written the first volume of his autobiography. Chronicles.

Laura Danielle 86 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow!! This beautifully constructed menu is well > worth a try. In fact those that don't go are well > and truly missing out. I visited spinach for its > soft opening on Wednesday and sampled some (quite > a few) of what this exciting menu had to offer. i > think I've stumbled across my new favourite south > London restaurant! Between the intriguing wine > selection and the incredible dishes that are on > offer I'd find a harder spot to rival this new > restaurant in east dulwich. I'm not a creature of > habit by nature, far from it however I think I'm > going to be a staple regular at the delicious new > home from home. Can't wait for my next visit. Oh dear oh dear. I will feel crushed and devalued eating anywhere else now.

Is the menu the same as the other Jaflong? Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere.

C&I Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi all, > > Is anyone else having problems with loud music > being played around the Whateley Rd/Crystal Palace > Rd area? It's been occurring most Saturday nights > for quite a few weeks now and happened last night > (Wednesday 12th). It normally starts around 12am > and continues until 3-4am. No idea where exactly > it's coming from but it's becoming very > disruptive! > > Thanks Suggest you phone Southwark Noise Control (via the council). If this still exists, that is, as I think they changed the hours when they operate. Also keep a record of when the noise is happening and for how long.

Pierre Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rendelharris Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Imagine your neighbour doesn't like you, you see > a > > gang of people with baseball bats vandalising > his > > car - are you going to go out and risk your > safety > > just to make sure nobody blames you? Amazing, > > we've gone from travellers being blamed for > being > > criminals to now being blamed for not being > > policemen! > > That's a really bizarre way of interpreting it. > > Imagine if you were only ever planning to be > temporarily parked up in one place, but you > thought that place was OK so you'd like to stay a > while, if they could put up with you. > > Imagine if you had to live in a perpetually > nervous state of always having to be ready to pack > up your generator, hitch up your caravan - your > home - and get back on the road to somewhere else. > Maybe somewhere you'd only heard about through a > phone conversation with a trusted friend that > you're not literate enough to have written down in > a useful way. > > Imagine if a large group of teenage girls show up > at your latest stop, screaming and throwing > conkers and food, or a couple of grinning, > menacing guys in a tipper truck arrive at your > pitch and dump a load of rubble next to you > because they know you can't fight them off on your > own and you haven't a leg to stand on because the > locals will blame you, while they can pick up more > rubbish (and take money for it) and dump it half > way up Layhams on Tuesday morning and you'll still > get the blame? > > Imagine how transient you'd feel, wherever you > stopped to park up, and how resistant you'd have > to become to the taunts and the shouts and the > prejudice of those who were all too keen to make > you feel you're not Part Of Their Community. And > imagine how little you'd then care about dropping > some litter, or driving across some grass, or > leaving a mess, that's not all your own making, in > a place that you thought might be good for a short > while but has very swiftly taken on all the > prejudices and hatred you and your children are so > used to facing...? > > -- > > Sorry, slightly inebriated rant but it's very easy > to try and paint this in terms of black and white, > but the fear and protectiveness I saw in the > travellers of that group that I spoke to when they > were attacked made me remember that they're > people, human, parents, not the evil predatory > monsters that we're so keen to believe in. And > maybe the fly-tipped pallets and building waste > wasn't their fault. But may have hastened their > departure. Another good post. I hope some of the people on here who have been so quick to lay blame read it and feel even a tiny bit ashamed.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Back on subject.. I spoke to one of the Jaflong > staff last night who claimed Jaflong on L.L is > staying and not being sold. > > Now I believed the deal was done and dusted. So > now I don't know. ??? > Perhaps they haven't told the staff.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blah Blah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I've taken lots of pics in Nunhead Cemetry and > > never been told off. > > > So have I.. I entered the cemetry from the back > gate. But I noticed the sign at the main gate. > > There are not many people around to 'Tell you off' > as you say.. and no complaints from the residents. > > But.. It's against the Bye-Laws.. > > Foxy See Renata's post above.

What would you have done? Let him go away and be possibly attacked? Good on you, Hilary, and thanks for sharing on here so we are aware of it.

lavender27 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nothing else to put on a piece a bread, we were > poor, and then the sugar butty was born. I used to get given sugar sandwiches. Made with white sliced bread. But they had butter on them as well so maybe they were slightly nutritious :))

People who do that automatic "love you" thing at the end of every phone call. It just totally devalues it for me. It reduces it to "OK I'm going now, bye." Oh, and Fox, Whitten Timber in Peckham are brilliant. I ordered a load of fence slats on the phone early one morning and they had them loaded and delivered within the hour.