Sue

It's really weird as I've had no problems at all with Orange lately, thank goodness, either calls or texts. I hope that's not tempting fate!!

Carpets are definitely warmer. But you can always put rugs on top of wooden floors in the Winter months. Whatever floor you choose will probably look old-fashioned in 5-6 years' time, so I would go with what you like now! Personally I think the same flooring throughout a house looks better, but it's a matter of personal choice really. When you say "grey colour" wooden floor, if it's grey because it's painted, you can always paint it a different colour if you go off it in the future?

Bit late to let us know! I've only just seen this, and would have come if I'd known about it before :( Never mind, am buying shares anyway !!!

I have an automatic repeat prescription with DMC-Lloyds and have had no problems at all with it. Just picked it up at Lloyds yesterday in fact, and it was there on the day specified two months ago. Must admit I did once have an issue (with different medication) when DMC were blaming Lloyds and vice versa, but that was a long time ago and was a one-off.

LondonMix Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, is that what Sue is alleging happened? I've > never quite understood what she was trying to say. > > xxxxxxxx Let's be clear, I am not "alleging" anything. Like everybody else who doesn't have access to all the evidence which two police forces now have access to, all I know is the information from the Portuguese police files (and some other "official" evidence) which has been released into the public domain. For very obvious reasons, not all that information has been released! Websites like the one I and Stacy-Lyn (spelling?) linked to previously in the thread will give you that information. However the vast majority of people, quite understandably, cannot be bothered to wade through all that!! It is quite possible - indeed, probable - that information will come to light which sheds a completely different perspective on things than the one I have built up. All I can say is that from what I have read - not in the press, not from other media, not from articles based on press releases from the McCanns' "spokesman" - but from information released by the police themselves - I will be astounded (but of course delighted) if Madeleine McCann is found alive. And as a grandmother, whatever happened to her it breaks my heart that three little children were (apparently) left alone night after night in that way. It wasn't a hotel room, it was an apartment which was (if memory serves) outside the main complex, adjacent to a road. A ten-year-old or even a six-year-old is very different to a not-yet-four-year old left to babysit her two younger siblings, LondonMix. ETA: My younger granddaughter is four. The thought of leaving her in that situation just makes my mind boggle, frankly. She has no concept of danger whatsoever, just a need to run, climb, make huge leaps across furniture and play with whatever is available, toy or not.

bob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Le Moulin near the Plough ..... > looks a bit funny from the outside ..... xxxxxx You win the Forum prize for understatement of the year :)

I think many of the good things have been in place for ages for many people (including me). I agree the appointments system does need sorting out though. I thought they were going to?

Oh dear. Even before the end of the clip I was thinking toenails. Crushed and crunchy peas :(

:)) Maxxi Numbers, oh duh, clearly I am still years behind everybody else in the culinary knowledge stakes. I never even really got as far as pea shoots :)) Pea shooters is more my era, come to think of it :))

The menu at The Montpelier includes "Beer-battered cod, Chips, Crushed Peas". CRUSHED peas? Is this some artisan version of mushy peas? Are they crushed by hand in their own kitchen? I need to know.

annigran Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just seen a Jay in trees at Goose Green. xxxxxx Lucky you, I love Jays :)

Anyway, now I'm going to go and do other things, so you can all have a lovely time slagging me off whilst I'm gone. Enjoy :) Or of course you could follow your own advice and not keep posting on the thread, so it disappears :) ETA: And DJKQ, as I have said, I am not going to be drawn in again by you.

woodrot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > for @#$%& sake. stop. > > > > *loses will to live* > > *hangs onself from monkey puzzle tree on the Rye* xxxxxxx Why are you continuing to read the thread then, Woodrot? Sincere question. Easy answer to losing the will to live would be to read something else, wouldn't it? :)

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Short memories people short memories > > Why exactly did you ask for that thread to be > deleted sue can you remember? > > What is Likely to be different this time? xxxxxxx As I have already said above (short memories?), I asked for it to be deleted because a troll registered on the forum specifically to post on the thread and make accusations which were almost certainly libellous. Given the propensity of the McCanns to set Carter Ruck on people, and given this country's libel laws (set to change thank goodness) I didn't want the forum involved in any sort of trouble, or to give admin any grief. OK? ETA: And I'd quite like an answer to the questions I asked you above :)

That's weird, I'm with Orange and I haven't had any problems today. And I'm just down the road from Foxie :)

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree with you Sue, SJ is being harsh ( or > fatherly :) ) xxxxxx Thanks Mick Mac. Glad he (or she) isn't my father :)) ETA: Though come to think of it, my father was equally patronising on occasion - when I was a child.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue. You were directly responsible for the removal > of the previous thread. Some people don't have to > read every thread but moderators and admin do > > You can surely see this thread will end up in the > same place. You said yourself at the start of this > one you weren't going to get sucked in again but > you surely have > > Learn the lessons from last time. Heed your own > advice. Listen to people telling you to let it go xxxxxx Eh? I asked for the removal of the previous thread myself, and I didn't start this one. I have been very careful not to get drawn in by the likes of certain posters who I will not name, so what do you think I have been sucked into, exactly? Why am I not allowed to state facts - not theories - which are in the public domain elsewhere? Why are people so keen to lay into me, when other posters are continuing to post on the topic? If you want the thread to disappear, then why don't you tell people the reason and delete it, or ask that it be deleted? What exactly have I said that is so terrible? Please can you give me some examples. Thanks. ETA: If you intend to close all discussion on this case, then can I suggest that you have a forum rule that no cases of child disappearance can ever be discussed here, just so that everybody is quite clear :)

Nobody is forcing anybody else to read this thread or to contribute to it, LondonMix. There are many press articles and forum threads which I have no wish to read because of their content, but I don't feel the need to slag off the people who do write them and contribute to them!

Sorry to have missed the point, Mick Mac :( But I'm still not quite sure what your point is? Sorry to be dim. Anybody "could" be taken at any time, of course, but the point of a reconstruction would have been to identify the window (no pun intended) of opportunity when Madeleine "could" have actually been taken on the night of her apparent disappearance. ETA: Whether she had been watched/targeted or whether it was opportunist, or whatever.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My personal view is that this child had been > watched and could have been taken at some point or > other. It wasn't necessarily an opportunist > kidnap. > xxxxxxx Well, if the people concerned had returned for a reconstruction of their movements that evening, as requested by the Portuguese Police, perhaps that "some point or other" when she "could" have been taken could have been determined.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue - Personally I feel sad for the McCann family. > Yes they left their children asleep in what was > supposed to be a safe environment, but I have > known some parents who have done the same. I would > not say it was neglect. > > They will carry the pain forever, but there is no > accounting for the actions of a peodophile and to > allocate part of the blame to the family is wrong. > > > You can't be with your children 100% of the time. > There will always be opportunities for people like > this who target a particular child. You just have > to protect your children as best you can - but > mainly hope that you are not the unlucky ones like > the McCanns. xxxxxx Mick Mac, there is to the best of my knowledge no evidence at all that a paedophile was involved, unless you know otherwise? And sorry to disagree with you, but this was very clearly neglect. Three children under four were apparently left in an unlocked room out of sight and earshot of the parents. The parents could have hired a babysitter. They chose not to. They also had no baby alarm. The unlocked apartment was near a road and a swimming pool. One door led to a flight of steps (downwards). The floor of the apartment was stone or tiled - very hard, anyway, should a small child fall onto it. Whatever the intervals of checking which took place, a couple of minutes is sufficient for a small child to have an accident of some kind or to choke. Or just to wake up in terror after a nightmare with no adult in the room. That was hardly a "safe environment". So yes, I would say it was neglect. And you could describe it as "unlucky", but if you leave your children alone night after night in those conditions then you make your own bad luck, really, don't you? ETA: And Ratty, actually it wasn't "close by". Well, depending on what you mean by close by, of course. I'm sure you can google a map of the area showing the relative positions of the McCanns' apartment and the Tapas bar where they were eating.

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Annette Curtain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I want to kick these :)) :) > > > But Annette, that would be active-aggressive... xxxxxx :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)):)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)):)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)):)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)):)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) Kick away! Enjoy! Plenty more where those came from!

Voyageur Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue - god help you too..... xxxxxxx Care to explain what you mean by that? Thanks :)

Voyageur Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > Evidence presented via the media natch - like > > all > > > of us I have no other knowledge base. > > > > xxxxxx > > > > Many of the official police files are given in > the > > second of the links I posted in my first post > on > > this thread. > > > > There is also further information in the first > > link I posted. > > > > That is some kind of knowledge base. > > > > I wouldn't rely on the media for "evidence" if > I > > were you :)) > > I believe the balanced and informed views of > experts with access to me data than we could dream > of (as opposed to forum pundits) as reported in > the media :-D xxxxxxxx Eh? You think that the media base what they print on anything other than what they think will sell papers? If you believe what the media report, God help you!

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not going to be drawn into pointless arguments > this time. > > > Yeah right. xxxxxx It depends what you mean by pointless. What do you mean by pointless? I think I made my position quite clear. ETA: I find criticism of my posts on here purely because I'm making them pretty pointless and boring, tbh. But if it entertains you, do by all means continue :)