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binary_star Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If anyone would like to complain using RM's online > form (it took me ages to find the URL and > helpfully, it's NOT the one provided by their > telephone customer services) xxxxxxxx Oooooh - you can complain about that as well :))

muser Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for that AlexC. My machine doesnt make that > noise, so I missed the opportunity, xxxxxxxx I'm by no means an expert, but I'm sure you don't need to hear a noise to go into Safe Mode!

You shouldn't make assumptions :))

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do people still drink ale in ED? I must get out > more. xxxxxxx Cutting edge now, mate. Real ale and cider. Those of us who never stopped drinking it suddenly find ourselves at the front of fashion :))

I bought a great little teatray with bread and honey and a tiny knife, for three quid, though :) Was going to give it to my grandchildren, but think I may keep it for myself :) Sorry, off topic ....

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >> Let's not start pretending that being a Postman is > somehow on a Par with beign a Nurse or Fireman > etc. It's not. xxxxxxxxx No of course it's not. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be paid a decent living wage. It may be an unskilled job, but it's an essential job.

tomdhu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > The main point I was making was in my original > post QUOTE If they can't be @rsed to provide the > service that they are paid to provide..... > > Oh, and finally Sue, if did find myself out of a > job (again) I would take anything going - > including delivering mail. I've been made > redundant several times but I never been out of > work for very long. I've always found that having > a job, any job, makes it easier to get considered > when applying for another (eg better paid ) job. xxxxxxxxx The post I was referring to was the one in which you appeared to be saying that postal workers did not deserve a pay increase or an improvement in their terms and conditions. I suggested you research what they got. Postmen/women's pay and conditions If you would like to work a forty hour week (that's forty working hours) for that level of basic pay, good on you. All the posties I have known have had to do overtime even on top of the forty hours, to make a decent living wage. And as for taking the job as a stop-gap until you find something better - maybe that's the cause of the very problems you are complaining about. Royal Mail spend time and money on training and then people leave. In any work environment, some people will be hard grafters who give their all, and some will be lazy tossers. It's not fair to talk about Royal Mail as if all their employees fall into the latter category.

felt-tip Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BUT.... the CPT serves undrinkable ale. xxxx Does it serve ale at all these days???

You could try looking at this thread: Drops of Help

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > >It stars Aiden Gillen (The Wire), Tom Fisher and > Riann Steele. > > Never mind them. Who played the eponymous > Treacle? Was it a local cat? xxxxxxxx Yeh and did it get paid?

Oh OK thanks. Too blooming near my house for a Monday night :)) ETA: Or Tuesday even :-$

Anyone know what the shouting and screaming on NCR which has been going on for some time now is all about?

Tibbs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I would rather buy fresh organic > wholesome foods and cook meals from scratch > especially as I have 3 young boys to feed and my > husband.... I shop for what is on offer and plan my menu round > that ...... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You don't have a paid job then, I guess, if you have time to do all this? If you do, respect, but give a thought to those who would find it too difficult to fit it all in. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx It is not about > snobbery it is about quality, most of the food in > Iceland is shocking, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Things like Iceland's frozen vegetables and bags of prawns or plain white frozen fish seem perfectly fine to me, and very good value. I understand that because frozen vegetables are frozen soon after they are picked, they retain their nutrients longer than so-called fresh vegetables do. I have also had yoghurt, cottage cheese and mature cheddar cheese from Iceland which have appeared to be no different to anything I'd buy anywhere else. Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely people who buy ready meals do so either because they have no time to cook, because they're too tired to cook after work, or because they've never been taught to cook. Or because a ready meal is cheaper than buying all the individual ingredients, particularly if you live on your own and want to avoid waste.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To be fair though, postmen are paid to do a job > and some of them aren't doing it. It's hard to > have any sympathy for that. xxxxxxxxxx Yes, but that didn't appear to be the point that tomdhu was making, and he hasn't come back in response to my post.

tomdhu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for the advice DJKQ. > > What sticks in my craw is that only a few months > ago RM postal workers were given a very very > generous payoff by the Labour government, > including:- > > a) 7% pay increase. > b) Reduction of 1 hour in the working week. > c) A gift of ?2,500 for accepting modernisation. > d) Improved maternity and paternity arrangements. > e) Guarantee of no enforced redundancies. > > On top of this they will all receive gold-plated > final salary pensions that we tax payers are > having to pay for. > > No wonder the economy is in hole. xxxxxxxxx Do you have any idea what pay level the 7% is being added to? And what the current working week is? I suggest you do a bit of research on the pay and conditions of posties, and then come back onto this thread and let us all know whether you still think this is so terribly bad - and more to the point, whether you'd be willing to do the job for this pay.

silverfox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >at the end > of the day they're only searching for answers like > the rest of us. xxxxxxxxxxx You can only speak for your "self", silverfox :))

Perhaps the Blue Mountain had run out of their normal organic, free-range milk gathered from a specified herd of local cows, and had had to pick up a pint or two from Iceland, their nearest supplier :))

cate Wrote: > The 'possible misinterpretation' has not been > removed. It is still there. Apologising does not > remove it. I think it should be removed. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx You can report the post to admin giving the reason why you think it should be removed. That may have more effect than posting about it here. ETA: Then up to admin/mods whether they agree with you and remove it.

felt-tip Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It might not be the same one. MIGHT be. Probably > is though. xxxxx Well, there was a family of three herons seen together on Peckham Rye lake earlier in the year - so there's at least a one in three chance it's not the same one :))

Ah. So you are a total tw*t, then ......

Alex K and DJKQ, did you actually read what EDDORDC posted, or did you read what you wanted to read? And Alex K, dragging in Wittgenstein just makes you look a t**t. ETA: And you are, it seems, calling EDDORDC a liar. That makes you look even more of a t**t.

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually Sue Iceland now charge ?12 for 3 bottles. > I know this isn't a wine thread but recently I got > a dozen bottles of red from Laithwaites online > which worked out cheaper than that and the wines > were delicious. xxxxxx what wines were they? Don't ever join Naked Wines, rip-off disguised as charitable enterprise for budding winemakers.

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Er, I think it's the sort of mistake that a pigeon > doesn't make twice. xxxxxxx I believe the first pigeon did escape? Or maybe that's just wishful thinking :)

Eh? There wasn't any subtext, it was a simple question, I wondered whether Scott had actually drawn it yet.

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Still doesn't change the fact that no attempt was > made by Royal Mail to deliver the item which is > what the sender pays postage for. xxxxxxxx DJKQ, as I read his post, he is saying that he did deliver it, and explaining the circumstances. Alex K, your post is just rude. "The shoe may fit, but you claim that this time you weren't wearing it. Well, it's pinched you enough to call forth a reply. " The guy's explained the circumstances, and came on here to do so. He doesn't deserve to be shot down. I'd like to say that I live in Ulverscroft Road and my postman is generally helpful and friendly, if clearly overworked. The situation re Royal Mail is complex, and trying to blame the staff doesn't help. ETA: If that was you, do you think you would be more motivated to try to do a good job, or less motivated, after reading these remarks?