bil

is the gym equipment similar to the one in peckham rye parK? If the weather is good tomorrow i shall swing by

Is funding earmarked for these improvements? The proposals are adequate and sound achievable with the right resources. The lighting is poor on the lane. Keeping the area well lit, clean and looking appealing would be my main wishes. If the funding was available, could some of the elements of Bellenden regeneration e.g. street lamps etc be replicated on the high street? Deptford high street/town centre has planned station redevelopment, a new square and has some art galleries and cafes but still has a number of African, vietnamese, English grocery shops. It is similar to Rye lane in many of its characteristics. some possible ideas... http://www.lewisham.gov.uk/Environment/Regeneration/DeptfordAndNewCross/DeptfordTownCentre/

In response to : "if you really knew the cost of providing healthcare". I am sorry, I didn't mean to patronise. I even know the cost figures myself.

These payments are not acceptable to vulnerable or housebound patients who need to call their GP for help-these people could be deterred from calling their GP and for this reason I disagree with the charges. However, I am not sure how many people making the comments on this thread fall into that category. If you can afford to pay for an i-pod, annual holidays, pets insurance, ?1.50 for a coffee at a cafe or go the delis, boutique shops in ED etc then is it so bad to pay a few pounds to your local GP practice which is probably resource stretched e.g. restricted funding, large population sizes, probably understaffed. Money that could possibly contribute to fund repairs or an extra nurse or receptionist to deal with all of the non-emergencies (If this is generating an income one should hope that it is used to improve the running of the practice). I don't know whether the income is enough for a profit or just to help with running costs. Many GP practices don't use these numbers probably (and correctly) on moral grounds. People are increasingly demanding more of the NHS but don't want to pay for it. Yes I know we all pay NI but if you really knew the cost of providing healthcare, you would know that our contributions are a drop in the ocean.

Mamora Man: I like your thinking. OS map and compass; the tried and tested way. I was going to try google earth because using aerial view on multi and google maps hasn't been very successful. Did you build your roof terrace or was it already in place? does anyone else on your road have one? wjfox: pictures are great and the photoshop map is ace. I know the salvation army building is brown with a tower and looks a little bit like the baltic gallery in newcastle. so I think dome temple building is probably dulwich hospital (saw picture on flickr) The views are never boring and can be seen from dawsons hill if anyone hasn't seen them before. hopefully i will win the lottery and build my roof terrace ...one day. i am looking forward to seeing the Shard grow in size. i will also try to identify it over the weekend.

1. Does anyone have a roof terrace in ED? has anyone encountered problems trying to get planning for one? In the future I would like to have one because the views from the back of my house, over central London, are incredible. 2. For all those that also have the same views (some will be better than mine) I have been trying to decipher the landmarks as some are easier to identify than others..what is the temple-like building with blue/grey domes? (I think it is near denmark or dog kennel hill but not sure) and a large vicorian estate with red roof tops near the Strata in elephant and castle. I can identify tower bridge, houses of parliament & big ben, wembley arch, city hall, BT tower, millenium wheel, gherkin, strata...can a can't see greenwich dome or canary wharf from my window. what else can people see?

new butcher near plough too (also very good reviews on forum)

Very helpful info; so thank you all. I will start my trial run mid week and see how it goes. I will miss my beloved car but am looking forward to a relaxing journey, with a seat especially if i leave before 7.45 (which i will have to anyway)...As for the run home; watch this space >:D

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I for one will not stop until there is a branch of > Whole Foods on LL, I just can't understand why > anyone would even consider shopping at a > supermarket without its own manifesto. I was thinking the same just the other day. Whole foods would be great (and i would still like an M&S-nearest one is in brixton, lewisham or greenwich)

there are a few threads about this incident -chinese whispers so far. No one actually knows what happened.

going to vauxhall or elephant from LL, so train is likely to be longer and no scenic walking routes from S London (unless there is one i am not aware of). bus 40, 176 or 185 will get me there nicely. It has been so long since i used the bus but the views of (and into) buildings, shops & gardens (and even some homes-alot of people don't use privacy blinds/nets/blinds) is something i don't get to see when driving and concentrating on the road. I feel like i have been missing the sparkle of London by using my car. I literally go from A to Z without looking at anything in between. having said that are there any quicker routes that can be suggested from ED to vauxhall or elephant & castle? thanks Bil

Good morning all Thank you for the advice. Avoid bus 12, I will only need to take one bus and, like muffins78, am looking forward to relaxing (preferably in a seat), reading a newspaper and listening to music . I think I will run back though. I used to cycle for many years and personally think the roads are way too busy (especially as i drive down these back roads myself). Once you get past LL it is bus lane all the way and i think my journey to work will only be 20-30 mins (depending on how long it takes for the bus to come). However, I need to leave 45 mins for my car journey to work so that I get in on time anyway. Ratty: when you say mobile phone music-do you mean people listening on their mobile/ipods with earphones ? or people, usually school children, "kindly" sharing their (in my opinion) crap music with their friends (and other passengers) at a loud volume?

Dear all I am considering leaving my beloved car at home to take the bus to work. I haven't used the bus in 2 years but recently used it a couple of times and the experience is much better than i remember. Besides with all the road humps, in my little car, my 20-30 minute journey is uncomfortable and tiring. AND it takes the same amount of time by bus (because of the bus lanes, which as a driver I abhor, but obviously appreciated when I "zoomed" by on the bus) Anyway my questions are to those who have experience of using bus routes 185, 176, 12, 40 from dulwich library/plough area. During rush hour are the buses very crowded? Do you have to let 1,2 or 3 pass by before you can get on? Are they frequent enough to be able to do that? Is your general experience good? Much appreciated

Please stop attacking Martin :(

if it was a mistake, he would (or should) have apologised and explained his mistake. Instead he left muffins78 stunned and feeling violated. No long term damage may have arisen (i hope) but i think it is still serious incident and unlikely to be an accident.

i'm sorry this happened to you. Please don't feel guilty at your reaction; you were shocked, i would be. Thanks for letting us know. please report it though as it is a sexual assault.

i know a few people who use street car alot. We used their vans when we moved but the nearest collection point was London bridge at the time. maybe we won't need to get that second car we have been talking about for the last year.(and can't really afford). i think this is good news for ED. There was an article today on working about car sharing which i also thought was a good idea and hadn't considered. I've always wanted a BMW 6 series, does anyone want to share one? (split with 10 people just about makes if affordable- and could I drive it once a fortnight)

Saila Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No.. i always thought it was expensive and s**t Totally agree... But now their own brand stuff is much better quality and actually quite tasty with nice packaging. Not M&S; but an improvement on somerfield.

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm afraid of black people and all that weird > stuff that they eat, and Rye Lane doesn't fit in > with my aspirational view of what a High Street > should look like. That is a very generalised statement. Are all black people scary in your opinion? Do you eat Indian, Chinese or Italian, French food because all other cultures eat unusual meat, vegetables incl horse, crocodile, snails, dog etc back to the subject; for convenience (walking distance to ED station) pick the lower end of lordship lane incl bellenden, if you like green-parks and woodland e.g. runner or dog walker, then upper end of LL. The east london line will be at Forest hill in the next 1-2 months and can take you directly to canada water (for canary wharf) or shoreditch (spitalfields market which I love)

comment re video: beautiful gardens and a very special place; doesn't represent the whole of peckham but i am sure there are many other pockets like this around. This shows u that community spirit is not just for those living in the countryside and is present all over London. The music was a bit much...had me almost in tears

Or there is the top end of lordship lane which is also very quiet, nice and green i.e. near Dulwich park and library e.g. Overhill, dunstans, friern road would probably be cheaper than the other side of lordship lane, which are mostly large houses e.g. townley, woodwarde, eynella. It is still a 10 minute walk to main shops on lordship lane but there are some local shops too. peckham rye park is still closeby. short bus ride to forest hill, peckham rye or east dulwich.

Thanks for the info; I still appreciate the heads up...

on court lane i have to slow down to 7mph to get over the bumps and we (my car and myself) still feel traumatised. the bumps ascend quite sharply. However, the new ones on dunstans are much softer and much better.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > bil, mate, I think you're bs as well. > > This post gets reported, and if it's still here in > twelve hours, habeas corpus. How dare you say this is bs! and are you threatening me? do you work at Bonnie's or is this lady your wife? Nothing I said was malicious or particularly spectacular..It was my experience and opinion which is what this forum is for. If anybody has had good experiences (which i am sure there are many) they are welcome to contribute. Even if nubby'mums story has been sensationalised, if she was brought to tears in another mans shop then surely something happened which was very unpleasant......so I am not deleting my post. oh and come get me!

shocking story! So sorry to hear that you were threatened in this way... I think I have been served by that lady on two occasions. I agree that she isn't very helpful. When you ask for suggestions she doesn't give any and eventually you end up putting something together yourself. All she cares about is the cost. The other lady with the brown hair is much more knowledgeable, approachable (of will at least share her knowledge) and has better customer service acumen. After I went there for Valentines day, I decided that I wouldn't go back again. So I will try John Alan or Country spray (which is closer to me) next time.