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John Lewis collections are available from 'Little waitrose' branches as well.

LD929 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did Southwark Council ever give a formal response > to the proposed extension? > > ... Nervermind, I found it: > http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/1867/sout > hwark_calls_for_bakerloo_line_extension_via_old_ke > nt_road_and_camberwell_and_peckham Thanks for posting the link LD929 I thought the options were either Old kent road OR camberwell/peckham; not both. Southwark have supported the whole extension map. Regardless the extension, if approved, will definitely go to Lewisham via New Cross Gate (not sure why it's New Cross gate and not New cross which is already on the route to Lewisham, Ladywell etc)

I had to clear some dog mess from outside my house last week! I don't have any pets but since moving to ED I've had to clear up cat mss from my front garden at least weekly and dog mess on a regular basis (It's revolting). It's the same in our parks too. Not nice at all.

savvygirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > West Dulwich is classy, home to Dulwich College, > the Dulwich Picture Gallery and Dulwich Park. > Dulwich Village is just that, a village with > several specialist shops and a pub. It always > looks well maintained and is what you'd term > picturesque. It's posh! East Dulwich on the other > hand is the new pretender. It's got many shops, > pubs and restaurants and is very lively, lots > going on in the area. In recent years it's become > quite pricey to live in the area, some may term it > trendy. To compare West Dulwich with ED is like > comparing old money with new money. If you want > good transport links to the City then ED would be > best but even better is Forest Hill or Honor Oak > which has the East London Line Overground train > service. Personally I think Forest Hill is a much > nicer place, that is the part of Forest Hill near > to the Horniman Museum and Gardens and the right > side of the railway track! All the buses from > Forest Hill go down to Lordship Lane in ED, so > best of both worlds. Lots of parks and green > spaces all around. Suggest you pay a visit to > both areas. Aren't Dulwich park and Dulwich picture gallery are in Dulwich village not West dulwich? Dulwich park borders onto east dulwich too (I live within 5 minutes walk to Dulwich park and don't live in West dulwich.) I personally prefer the SE24 part of Dulwich/bordering on Herne hill (big houses, brockwell park is very nice and herne hill station is one stop from Brixton). ED is probably more interesting place to live but they (ED/WD) are both so close together. We looked at houses in both ED and WD but went for ED as we have peckham rye park/common at the other end of the road, Dulwich park at one end and a dawsons hill (with great views of london) in the middle. Many of the houses in this part (underhill/upland/dunstans) have panoramic views of London as does the Mamora road area too. Some parts of forest hill also have these amazing views which are partly obstructed by Dawsons heights (some don't mind/some do).

michael_FH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > James Barber Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > The last time I asked the annual bus subsidy > per > > route was ?4M. > > The proposed Bakerloo extension is being touted > at > > circa ?2bn. > > > > Over crowded buses wont win the business case > > argument. If anything bus routes would be cut > to > > help finance it. > > I don't think the subsidy per route is that high > (especially not in South East London), but I think > the cost of a proper Bakerloo line extension > (going underground not using existing rail tracks) > is higher. > > You are correct that overcrowding on buses doesn't > automatically provide a business case, but it does > show a significant capacity issue in the South > East corridor, and almost certainly supressed > demand and slow connection times. It is the > supressed demand for public transport, and tube > particularly, in South East London that is the > reason for improving capacity. Bakerloo line is > not the most cost effective method in the short > term, but you cannot compare capital expenditure > to running costs on alternative service. If this > were the case then the case against Channel Tunnel > would have been overwhelming - why not just run a > few additional hovercraft? > > A business case for HS2 is based on the amount of > time wasted by people travelling to meetings in > Birmingham, so how time is wasted by bus commuters > (long journey time and waiting for full buses to > go past) when they could be busy working? > > Bakerloo line extension is about so much more than > bus capacity, but bus overcrowding in South East > London is a clear indication that something > serious is wrong in South East London and that a > radical solution is probably required, and the > right solution is obvious for anyone to see. Good points Michael_FH

I agree Philosophie..

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The last costing of opening ELL2 platforms at > Brixton was ?60m. Crazy! ....a bit of negotiation to get the price down :-)... and it would have transformed south London's transport network!

It is frustrating that the London overground/ELL2 passes directly over Brixton station en route from Denmark hill on its way to Clapham but doesn't stop at Brixton. What a difference that would have made; easy access to the Victoria line. I don't know what the costs would have been to build the platform but seems like it would have or could be a relatively quick win that would benefit many in South East London who use the overground.

Yuuna Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Where would a proposed tube station in Camberwell > be? I read a poster suggest Camberwell Green... > Oval Station isn't that far. Also, there was the > Walworth Road suggestion; again, Elephant & Castle > Station isn't that far... Both suggestions seem > too near existing stations within a short bus ride > or walk. > > Depending on where you are in Camberwell, I would > think Oval Station, or perhaps even Elephant & > Castle Station, would be relatively near enough. I > think it's places like East Dulwich and or Peckham > that would have more benefit by having new tube > stations. > > I do find it annoying, at times, that places like > East Dulwich (and South East London in general) > have less direct transport links, I don't like > national rail much due to it's infrequency (London > has gotten to me...). However, I think people know > that when they move here - it's not that central. > Camberwell is quite central. I just don't see the > necessity for a tube station in Camberwell. Hi On the contrary, a tube station at Camberwell is important as it would reduce congestion along both the camberwell new road and the walworth road. Presently the options are bus and car or train from Denmark hill. The sheer volume of traffic plus the narrowness of the camberwell new road can make journey times from ED to central London an hour plus by bus (and the distance is only 5 miles or so). At rush hour the buses are bulging with over capacity and it can be a 20 minute wait to get on from the camberwell new road at times. If more people were able to use the tube to get into central London (presumably PAYG or travelcard users) then this could reduce the need for as many bus routes and will reduce overall congestion. I would prefer one even closer like Peckham (as I live in ED) but I do think one in camberwell is essential.

Very very sad. My sentiments to those affected.

The play area at the Herne Tavern was one of several local attractions which brought us to ED and our road (dunstans). We dont have kids yet so we haven't personally used the kids area; but like the pub garden and have never been bothered by the children playing. I often take my friends who have kids and we enjoy a great afternoon in the sun eating and having a few drinks. I will be sad to see this go. I dont know of any other family friendly pub gardens closeby particularly ones that catch the sun all day. The Florence has a room for kids but their beer garden is much smaller.

Does this mean that Conway will be on LL again to install speed humps? The bottom of LL (near co-op and outside The bishop) is now very congested with all the numerous traffic measures in place. Bus journeys to the station take even longer than before.

Um yes! good point! :-D

Clapham high street has both a little waitrose and an Iceland within a few doors of each other. There is a sainsburys across the road and numerous independent shops, a cinema and some high quality restaurants. It is thriving and mixed. Why do we argue that we have to have one or the other? The bottom of LL has become really congested now especially between Oliver Bonas and Co-op. The traffic flow has been brought to near stand-still. Green and blue is empty and there are a few other empty shops. It doesn't have the same vibe and I miss Blue mountain.

I hope M&S do make it onto LL. Maybe the old and empty police station might be another option.

Today our road is lovely and clean (road and pavements)! Thank you Southwark :-)

The tube isn't planning to come to ED is it? There is a possibility of rye common but really the priority needs to be camberwell. The bus routes are slow and heaving with over-capacity in the morning and all of the major bus routes from ED into central go via Camberwell. It's probably faster to jog from Kings to elephant via Walworth road than take the bus.

Dun Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Come on, only 800 signatures so far, if you don't > ask you don't get so go and take 1 minute to sign > the petition! I agree.. last thing we want is Crossrail 2 to be selected over a much needed South east london tube line because it is receiving more support

When I called them last week they offered me an appointment for this week. I've never had to wait 4 weeks to be seen. Please try them again.

A chocolatier and cake shop (whole cakes and cupcakes). I go to Le Chandelier but they don't always have enough stock. A cinema like Picturehouse. A Japanese restaurant

Garnwba, I'm sorry you had to move to SE5. I hope the move wasn't driven your parking woes near ED station. I presume you always park in designated pay and display car parks and never on a main or side road outside anyone elses house. Otherwise you could be forcing them to park somewhere else and you seemed to have been bothered by this when it affected you. Do you think all roads should be CPZs? or just around the stations that the public need to access to go to work and those who can afford the premium rent/house prices can park because they have an opportunity to pay extra to do so. CPZs prevent people (including council tax payers of which I am one) from parking on certain public roads. Unless a road is a private one or an individual pays specifically for the patch of road outside their own house, anyone who pays council tax SHOULD be able to park freely. If the public transport problem was addressed properly people wouldn't need to drive to the station. I dont drive to ED station (and have only been there twice) but I hope a CPZ isn't introduced anywhere in ED.

When I contacted SE22 magazine I was told that don't deliver to my road. It appears that my road in SE22 isn't SE22 "enough" We get the Living South every month which I do like to read.

Sorry everyone. Here is the link.. http://tfl.gov.uk/cs5

FYI- consultation on proposed cycle superhighway tfl.gov.uk/cs5 Have a good evening :-)

Ah what a lovely post. Welcome and wishing you all the best