Maurice

Bl®ah Bl®ah Bl®ah In answer to your silly racism allegation. Can you please tell me which groups of people are exempt and allowed anti-social behaviour and downright rudeness based on their race please? Ta Ta Ta

There's a fine line between blame and holding people responsible. I'll concede it's the latter and we struggle with it in Camberwell. We bear the brunt of all the worst things confronting the Borough and sit and watch everywhere else get truckloads of cash. We did get that new toilet though. Back on point. The Grove is distinct from the mayhem of Camberwell proper. I think we belong in Dulwich East. Alan you can stay in Camberwell and dish out tough love. I should recommend a bullet proof vest. Bob. I still have an 8 track. And a Bose state of the art too.

Ah then that explains why things are improving I suppose. I had such high hopes for new labour. Now I think we need an era of tough love ala the blue brigade. Meanwhile back in Camberwell we're blaming ourselves for the behaviour of idiots instead of blaming them.

Sorry. Thought you all were Lib Dems. Richard Thomas not one of yours? Are you Conservatives? We're Labour. But the Borough is Lib Dem/Conservative so we're out of the loop regardless.

Er Camberwell's shade is not as far left as Dulwich, though the whole Borough is run by Lib Dems.

Sorry - hop aboard the 36 or 436 and music blarring from 14 mobile phones is a bit much. No I don't mind a bit of urban noise, take Lordship Lane, but strink drinking idiots shouting horrendous hate-filled things is something else. And the rudeness of people. Shoving, pushing and all 'round nasty. The Grove deserves a Lordship. Not a third-world, gum encrusted, litter filled, take-your-life-in-your-own-hands through road. Luckily we have the Camberwell Forum back on the case again. Boy have they been a huge force for the better!

Yep that lot plus the hoards of rude people who push, shout, toss litter, blast music from mobiles, ah the list continues. I've been here a long time. Too long. It is getting so much worse.

It's a dump. Just go stand at the main intersection at 5.30pm tonight. Wear something waterproofed as you might get pissed on.

Exactly. I want my cake etc. Can those of us in The Grove join adopt your ED brand, erect walls along the south side of Camberwell Church Street and Denmark Hill (okay give 'em the shops and Butterfly monster), and leave Camberwell to the growing lot of people hell bent on destroying what is left. They can join forces with central Peckham.

Yes we have Georgian galore - and more faux Georgian on the way. But it comes at a very high price, and we're not just talking cash.

Assuming this is akin to the UK's recent point system, can you specify the a) required total and b) point value of each...

I have to agree about the toilet bit. Ironically, it was big news here when we got a toilet on the Green. Fitting.

Please don't send me to that blog or that Forum. Wanna know why I want to join you? Go visit those sites. Jeez. Yes I do live on the wrong side of the tracks, but at the bottom of the road the wrong way we'll soon have St George's third-time-luck pretty nice development and we have a few good pubs. I think we need to traffic manage people from entering from the Camberwell side and produce our own little draw bridges. You know you want us. The Grove is far better than some bits of East Dulwich proper. Please take us. We can't take being attached to a third-world country much longer.

I live in the heart of Camberwell Grove. Can we actually just start calling to 'The Grove', as many do and drop the Camberwell bit. Further, can we sever our ties with the poorly resourced, hopeless Camberwell and become East Dulwich, or even just Dulwich? What about it? Please?