PeckhamRose

Ohhhh i DID miss something! Get your point. Yeah, the last 12 I went on broke down when the driver hit a wing mirror on a lamppost.

I want society to be great and to do that you have to specially concentrate on kids who are obviously gifted no matter their background. They can be identified and then put in hot house schools but if they're unhappy send them to the school they wanted or would have gone to otherwise. Special schools for gifted children can give society great people who could be the greatest scientists, philosopherd, social reformers, doctors or whatever. Sounds great. But unworkable. I went to a boarding school for sick children ("Delicate children" to be accurate). I had the worst time of my life there but "ordinary" school ws not an option. I could not understand why all the other kids seemed so happy. Going home in the holidays I was also unhappy as home life was a nightmare. So I would spend holidays in hospital. Now, I am a happy adult and over all that. But I use it so as to explain stuff. Meeting about 10 of those kids since from FriendsReunited has been what helped me. I found out what THEY were thinking. They loved the place because it saved their lives and made them feel good about themselves. We were treated all the same. We were all the same. Segregation (of sick kids) worked for most of the kids there. Going home in the holidays made a lot of kids sick again. When I left I went to a Secondary school and sometimes it felt it was me and the wheelchair user against the world. I made a few friends but being a sick kid I was different and never part of the crowd. That's kids for you. Let's be frank. Kids are bullies. Kids can be cruel and kids can be cleverly cruel so they're not caught. And they are specially cruel to people outside their experience, colour, body type, postcode! So segregation does make sense. But in an ideal world of course we want society to be all the same. To all go to the same schools and mix and be "tolerant" (a word meaning to me, that you want to bully or say bad things but you are being taught not to). Well the comprehensive system sounds great but there's one big chunk of society missing from it. The rich kids. They're in separate schools, many of them boarding. So why can't poor kids go to separate schools and be concentrated on too? Of course, sending them off to such schools is not the answer, the answer is the unspeakable truth that many people should not be having kids. They can't look after them. They often don't want them. Money is not always the answer here. Seems to me such schools in the current political climate are probably going to be a good answer. My fears are when those kids go home to their estates in the holidays, they will be picked on. If people do not like the idea of sending poor kids to boarding schools they should close down every public boarding school in this country. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7523211.stm

Free bendy busses? What free bendy busses? Still have to pay to go on the 12 and they're not quicker, specially when they get stuck on corners or have to stop to exchange details! Did I miss something?

American, obvio(u)sly.

Get them to make it a Members Question, that kinda means big talk business... Good luck!

Brixton did too. Remember reading about that. Don't know how legal it is, though...

Just don't play happy shiny greensleeves music at that time in the morning!

PeckhamGateCrasher is my fave. It kinda paints a picture and makes me grin. And the lady herself was very sweet and helpful to me!

Phrases like "and we are currently working with partners regarding the issue of new parking costs at weekends and evenings in Peckham" leave me cold. Politicians just don't TALK like the rest of the human race. Who are "partners"? Frustrated shop owners? Shoppers? Workers? That's like calling patients "clients" or "end users". I don't travel in a bubble or cage, I am a motorcyclist, but even as a motorcyclist I have sympathy for some car drivers. Those taking elderly relatives to hospital, to the locksmith trying to do his job, just ordinary folks doing what they have to do. But my earlier point was about the fact that if we could work closer to our homes, we would not need that kind of expensive transport link. Many companies could let some of their staff work from home but they don't trust them. Yet it is proven in some studies that those who do work from home (like me) work longer hours (even taking into account constant coffee making) because we know we're lucky and don't want to lose the right! I may be making a naive mistake in not being for the cross river tram, and I can see benefits of course. But this town is full of residential areas and look at the devastation caused when entire streets were knocked down to make way for the A12 in the 1980s. Still, that was the East End...

I use the C*&t word a lot at home. And I speak quite nicely. But as for where we are in 2008, let's look at it like this. We still have an appendix and we have not needed one for thousands of years. But our bodies have not caught up with our changed eating habits. Somewhere, in there, is an analogy.

Ohh bloody 'ell! Edit all the crap out please! And no-one picked up on my fabulous pun "currants, see?" in the East Dulwich currency thread. It is STILL making me laugh which means I am really sad. Sorry.

There are other downsides, and the Peckham Vision is full of the latest plans and ideas. I am not for it. The money could be put to better use. It could be used to make better homes and office spaces here so we didn't need to travel for example! If Southwark were really aware of the need for this tram, they would understand why some of us use cars, and if they understood why some of us use cars, they would be more tolerant of car users. They're not. So they don't care. Yes, it's a bad argument. I kinda like it though.

No... that's "Scrotes".

Yeah and that area's crimeFREE now, right?

Wish I could attend more meetings, but will try to attend more though means I lose money! I was rather glad NOT to see the wild birds show though not sure that's ever a Fete thing, just saddens me to see tethered birds, and I don't care they're born into that life. So don't be tempted to invite them! How about inviting a stall from one or more of the nearest City Farms next year - like Surrey Docks City Farm for example. They sell their own organic meat now so you could have sheep back on the Rye, but ready to cook!

So, what, you suggesting we dig around for old groats? ;)

I think we should call it Fruit (currants, see?) Edited for spelling so the (current) pun actually makes sense.

Bit late then, innit. Marmora Man? Was your car graffiti'd?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7605639.stm

Exactly! That echoes some of the original points made, CCTV does not prevent crime. It sometimes records it and sometimes police may catch the crims, but it does not prevent it. It does however have the effect on everyone that "well, that must be a dangerous area look at all the CCTVs" or, some young kids I speak to feel that they are being unfairly watched so they may as well do something wrong as that is what the society is expecting of them with all those cameras around.

You're aware of the phrase Designing Out Crime? Well this is "designing in crime". Sorry, but this is NOT a good thing. And I stand by my earlier statement that where it COULD be useful, Southwark are choosing not to install it there despite years of requests by locals, because the housing is cheaper here than it is on Marmora Road. Marmora Man - are you going to call the Council and find out why it has been installed? As a rate payer I am sure you are entitled to find out! Do let us know.

You can not be sure CCTV would have stopped it. People are stupid. They'd have done it anyway.

This is outrageous. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I have been down your street. It's a nice street. Big expensive houses. Why does Southwark think you need cameras? To get your votes? I am on the Police Ward Panel. Burglaries are down. Street crime is down. Southwark's budgets are down (hence closing the Spike?), and if anyone wants CCTV it is some of the residents of my small estate where even there - as part of the same ward - we have little crime and not any car theft I am aware of, and we have been asking for CCTV around our garage areas for years. I shall try and make enquiries.

Boosboss what about the bit about the SNT stall? I shall also ask them when they're walking around the site. FYI when I went on the fab ferris wheel in the middle of Regents Street the next day, it cost a mere ?2.50 which I thought was mighty fayre, I mean fair, no "fear", no, now I've got up too early... How about asking Metropolis - motorcycle and scooter company in Vauxhall - to attend and offer accompanied rides around a very small sectioned off area on the park to teach kids who are going to ride anyway but currently ride mini motos unsafely? Also will appeal to potential scooter-commuters and others? Now THAT's a good idea! I shall look up the names of the balloon folk and send you their details. Oh - and my photos are on FILM so shall upload scanned copies when they return. I know, I know, but I love film.

Yes He Should! So there's something dodgy going on and I think nothing less than a full investigation be held. And I was saying to my mates how fabulously home counties the fete was, so for sure a vegetable competition should be held. I would have won for my sunflower too, it's growing on my balcony and I live on the 3rd floor!