PeckhamRose

I'm sorry but I've just surfaced from four days of the lurgy and feel like hell and this is the funniest thing I've read so far. I know it's not funny really. But it is.

Well done Joe, and some great photos. Shame about the spam mails that get through! I need to go through some of mine and upload them too. MrRose was taking loads of photos on his PinHole camera, all very arty and weird and surreal looking. Specially in the beer tent. I shall try and encourage him to upload them but there really is a different look and feel to a pinhole photograph.

Has it worked?

Awwwwww was that great dane not yours? I'm sorry!

Sad to read about the shooting. There was another shooting in Peckham last week but the main press are this year only covering KNIFE crime. Gun crime is sooo out of media fashion. Poor kid.

Hi - I have some fab pictures. I don't want to put them all on because some people may be upset that photos of them are on the web for the world to see, and also some photos have children in them, and of course that's a minefield of danger. SO, please send me a private message if you want your photo on here, OR I could edit you out and just include your dawg(s)! Here's what I got: 1) Best puppy, final four people and their dogs including the tan coloured one on the right and the very fluffy dark one on the left with the red rosette, and their owners. Not brilliant, but won't put it on here without someone's permission! 2) Liz and her dog, tho Liz is texting it is rather a good photo! Want that one on?! 3) The Husky Cross is attached. 4) Man with great dane and his other spaniel(?) dog, and a few other people in that photo. Let me know if you want that one on here. 5) The VERY cute pooch no idea the breed but he's attached here all on his own. 6) A VERY soppy little dog sort of dachsund long hair caught lying on his back mid twist on the end of his lead. Attached. 7) Two girls and their pink rosette winning labrador (or is a retriever?) for the waggiest tail. Won't print that one without permission! But it's lovely photo. These are rough scans, I can take time and do a better job if anyone wants. See? NO point in changing the dates, it could have been THIS summery weekend!

Just been an item on the Radio 4 news about it, or may have been You and Yours. Anyway, yes, booking on line means you lost out. I am sorry! Check the BBC website for the details.

"Our highly trained consultants are more than happy to visit you at your facility at a time that is most convenient for you in order to explain the technical specification and potential use of body armour within your line of work." Walking in Camberwell doin' me shoppin' like? Or for the drug dealers so they don't get it on the way back to their souped up BMWs from the man at the mobile phone stalls? Or what.

Ohhhh i DID miss something! Get your point. Yeah, the last 12 I went on broke down when the driver hit a wing mirror on a lamppost.

I want society to be great and to do that you have to specially concentrate on kids who are obviously gifted no matter their background. They can be identified and then put in hot house schools but if they're unhappy send them to the school they wanted or would have gone to otherwise. Special schools for gifted children can give society great people who could be the greatest scientists, philosopherd, social reformers, doctors or whatever. Sounds great. But unworkable. I went to a boarding school for sick children ("Delicate children" to be accurate). I had the worst time of my life there but "ordinary" school ws not an option. I could not understand why all the other kids seemed so happy. Going home in the holidays I was also unhappy as home life was a nightmare. So I would spend holidays in hospital. Now, I am a happy adult and over all that. But I use it so as to explain stuff. Meeting about 10 of those kids since from FriendsReunited has been what helped me. I found out what THEY were thinking. They loved the place because it saved their lives and made them feel good about themselves. We were treated all the same. We were all the same. Segregation (of sick kids) worked for most of the kids there. Going home in the holidays made a lot of kids sick again. When I left I went to a Secondary school and sometimes it felt it was me and the wheelchair user against the world. I made a few friends but being a sick kid I was different and never part of the crowd. That's kids for you. Let's be frank. Kids are bullies. Kids can be cruel and kids can be cleverly cruel so they're not caught. And they are specially cruel to people outside their experience, colour, body type, postcode! So segregation does make sense. But in an ideal world of course we want society to be all the same. To all go to the same schools and mix and be "tolerant" (a word meaning to me, that you want to bully or say bad things but you are being taught not to). Well the comprehensive system sounds great but there's one big chunk of society missing from it. The rich kids. They're in separate schools, many of them boarding. So why can't poor kids go to separate schools and be concentrated on too? Of course, sending them off to such schools is not the answer, the answer is the unspeakable truth that many people should not be having kids. They can't look after them. They often don't want them. Money is not always the answer here. Seems to me such schools in the current political climate are probably going to be a good answer. My fears are when those kids go home to their estates in the holidays, they will be picked on. If people do not like the idea of sending poor kids to boarding schools they should close down every public boarding school in this country. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7523211.stm

Free bendy busses? What free bendy busses? Still have to pay to go on the 12 and they're not quicker, specially when they get stuck on corners or have to stop to exchange details! Did I miss something?

American, obvio(u)sly.

Get them to make it a Members Question, that kinda means big talk business... Good luck!

Brixton did too. Remember reading about that. Don't know how legal it is, though...

Just don't play happy shiny greensleeves music at that time in the morning!

PeckhamGateCrasher is my fave. It kinda paints a picture and makes me grin. And the lady herself was very sweet and helpful to me!

Phrases like "and we are currently working with partners regarding the issue of new parking costs at weekends and evenings in Peckham" leave me cold. Politicians just don't TALK like the rest of the human race. Who are "partners"? Frustrated shop owners? Shoppers? Workers? That's like calling patients "clients" or "end users". I don't travel in a bubble or cage, I am a motorcyclist, but even as a motorcyclist I have sympathy for some car drivers. Those taking elderly relatives to hospital, to the locksmith trying to do his job, just ordinary folks doing what they have to do. But my earlier point was about the fact that if we could work closer to our homes, we would not need that kind of expensive transport link. Many companies could let some of their staff work from home but they don't trust them. Yet it is proven in some studies that those who do work from home (like me) work longer hours (even taking into account constant coffee making) because we know we're lucky and don't want to lose the right! I may be making a naive mistake in not being for the cross river tram, and I can see benefits of course. But this town is full of residential areas and look at the devastation caused when entire streets were knocked down to make way for the A12 in the 1980s. Still, that was the East End...

I use the C*&t word a lot at home. And I speak quite nicely. But as for where we are in 2008, let's look at it like this. We still have an appendix and we have not needed one for thousands of years. But our bodies have not caught up with our changed eating habits. Somewhere, in there, is an analogy.

Ohh bloody 'ell! Edit all the crap out please! And no-one picked up on my fabulous pun "currants, see?" in the East Dulwich currency thread. It is STILL making me laugh which means I am really sad. Sorry.

There are other downsides, and the Peckham Vision is full of the latest plans and ideas. I am not for it. The money could be put to better use. It could be used to make better homes and office spaces here so we didn't need to travel for example! If Southwark were really aware of the need for this tram, they would understand why some of us use cars, and if they understood why some of us use cars, they would be more tolerant of car users. They're not. So they don't care. Yes, it's a bad argument. I kinda like it though.

No... that's "Scrotes".

Yeah and that area's crimeFREE now, right?

Wish I could attend more meetings, but will try to attend more though means I lose money! I was rather glad NOT to see the wild birds show though not sure that's ever a Fete thing, just saddens me to see tethered birds, and I don't care they're born into that life. So don't be tempted to invite them! How about inviting a stall from one or more of the nearest City Farms next year - like Surrey Docks City Farm for example. They sell their own organic meat now so you could have sheep back on the Rye, but ready to cook!

So, what, you suggesting we dig around for old groats? ;)

I think we should call it Fruit (currants, see?) Edited for spelling so the (current) pun actually makes sense.