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pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edcam Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > So now we can add lying to your list of > > transgressions. One PM?! Are you having a > laugh? > > As I said before, perhaps you should ask > yourself > > why so many people are having the same reaction > to > > you. You say you accept the views of others > but > > all evidence is contrary to that. > > > Go away you have nothing of any value to add to > this thread. I'm not sure when you decided that you were the forum police but I'll post as I please thanks very much. Anyway, I'm not sure what's going on in the head of someone who thinks the term "gypo" is anything but pejorative. It has been for as long as I've known.

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edcam Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > pop9770 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > edcam Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > I've been getting some quite weird and > > > insulting > > > > private messages from this pop/fazer person > > too > > > > (for daring to have a different opinion to > > him). > > > > > > > A troubled soul, clearly. > > > > > > > > > Yes because like TheArtfulDogger you won't > > leave > > > me alone you follow me from thread to thread > > > trying to goad and wind me up rather than > stick > > to > > > the subject of the thread you make trolling > > > posts. > > > > > > I may be a troubled soul .. > > > > > > You are a bully a pest an annoyance and you > > will > > > not leave me alone > > > > > > GO AWAY !!!! > > > > > > Go follow someone else leave me alone ! > > > > > > Ironic that you say this when I have repeatedly > > asked you to stop sending me bizarre private > > messages. I'm certainly not a bully but if you > > are going to post such nonsense, I'm not quite > > sure why you think people won't call you out on > > it. You seem to provoke the same response from > > quite a few posters, so perhaps you should have > a > > think about that. > > > > I find it hard to believe that you don't see > why > > using the terms you quote here could be > > offensive. > > > > Regarding that, I can't say I've been in Ayres > > Bakers more than a couple of times in the last > 20 > > years but I won't be going there again. > > > What is Ironic is you are incapable of > understanding two simple words GO AWAY > You?re someone who just can?t help being a pest > and you are a bully because you continue to harass > me and follow me from thread to thread in some > bizarre game just like a bully! > > I sent you one PM asking you to leave me alone and > you just don?t get it!!! > GO AWAY leave me alone can?t you see you are > goading me and winding me up (you know exactly > what you?re doing it?s a game you?re a troll) and > at the same time you are spoiling every thread for > others by continuing to goad me do you really > expect me to accept that? > You try to bully me into silence. > > I don?t think Ayres bakers will miss your > business. > I also don?t think he believes Gypo is any more > insulting that Frog .. > > You weird .. you expect everyone to accept your > world view and when it is questioned you are > incapable of looking at the world from someone > else?s viewpoint. > I know that from other threads. > > All you do is shutdown the conversation ,,, to me > that is unacceptable in an open forum / society. > > You need to see that your view isn?t the only > view. > > I accept your views but disagree they just don?t > apply to everyone same goes for my views. > > But you are blinkered and can only see the world > through your own eyes and questionable morals .. So now we can add lying to your list of transgressions. One PM?! Are you having a laugh? As I said before, perhaps you should ask yourself why so many people are having the same reaction to you. You say you accept the views of others but all evidence is contrary to that.

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edcam Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I've been getting some quite weird and > insulting > > private messages from this pop/fazer person too > > (for daring to have a different opinion to him). > > > A troubled soul, clearly. > > > Yes because like TheArtfulDogger you won't leave > me alone you follow me from thread to thread > trying to goad and wind me up rather than stick to > the subject of the thread you make trolling > posts. > > I may be a troubled soul .. > > You are a bully a pest an annoyance and you will > not leave me alone > > GO AWAY !!!! > > Go follow someone else leave me alone ! Ironic that you say this when I have repeatedly asked you to stop sending me bizarre private messages. I'm certainly not a bully but if you are going to post such nonsense, I'm not quite sure why you think people won't call you out on it. You seem to provoke the same response from quite a few posters, so perhaps you should have a think about that. I find it hard to believe that you don't see why using the terms you quote here could be offensive. Regarding that, I can't say I've been in Ayres Bakers more than a couple of times in the last 20 years but I won't be going there again.

I've been getting some quite weird and insulting private messages from this pop/fazer person too (for daring to have a different opinion to him). A troubled soul, clearly.

Elphinstone's Army Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > utterly disingenuous post totally disregarding an > expostulation as a figure of speech. Figures of speech and their acceptability change over time. I have two deaf friends who find this sort of thing offensive. Their opinion on this subject is much more important to me than anybody else's.

toto Wrote: > > And how about this morning ? Come on ! You must be > deaf ! Interesting that those who complain the most about the aircraft noise seem to think it's ok to insult those who aren't bothered by it. Don't you realise that it's 2016? It's no longer funny or acceptable to use disability as an insult. Interesting correlation here though.

It was certainly a grim episode. I had thought it would be one of the two but didn't expect it to be both of them! That Negan is a very naughty man....

Ah, it makes sense now. Of course he is fazer71. Similar insults to those who don't agree with him.

Yes, seemed at best racially insensitive to me. Hopefully the offending poster will choose his words more carefully in future. Anyway, back on topic. This external display has never presented a problem at all and has been there for years. I see no good reason for it to be removed or any justification for Southwark council to extort. It's an incredibly useful shop and deserves its place on LL. The display I'm sure would attract people who might not otherwise notice the shop and therefore help it to stay afloat in a street with a dwindling number of independent shops.

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Edcam > > Have you not noticed the difference this morning? > > No noise > > > I think you are making assumptions .. Nope. No difference.

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edcam Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > pop9770 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > As I expected one rule for you and another > for > > > others. > > > > I don't > > expect anyone to pander to my preferences. > > Yes you do you expect others to accept poor air > quality noise pollution because you are happy to > live with those life damaging conditions. > > I'm saying it is not acceptable for others. > > If you were affected then you wouldn't put up with > it, but you expect others to put up with it even > if it blights their lives. > > > Double standards.. Clearly.. But it doesn't blight the majority of people's lives. Most people barely notice it. We'd know about it if it was a major problem. Have you thought about moving? I can see it's a huge problem for you but really, for most people, it isn't an issue.

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I expected one rule for you and another for > others. > > Very sad selfish society still all the rage .. Sorry but this post doesn't make any sense. In what way am I saying "one rule for me and another for others"? We live in a city with a lot of aircraft overhead. There are a lot of things that irritate me but don't irritate others. I don't expect anyone to pander to my preferences.

Longer. I moved to ED in 1995 and they always had stuff outside then. Council t*!$s

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe the question those who do not suffer should > ask themselves is do they feel it is acceptable to > support inflicting pain on others less fortunate > than themselves or are they happy to look > themselves in the mirror and live with double > standards? I genuinely don't believe it's much of a problem here and that it's a minority of people who are sensitive to it. I have friends who live much closer to airports, where the noise is far greater than it is in these parts and on the whole they're ok with it. I know one couple that found it too much in West London and moved elsewhere. Now that I understand but aircraft noise is a fact of life if you live in a major city. And it's really not that bad here.

pop9770 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyone who lives under flight paths that blight > whole swathes of London knows what a horrendous > effect is incurred to the quality of our lives > with endless aeroplane noise. I live under the flight path and it doesn't bother me in the least. I accept that some people are disproportionately bothered by it but I do wish they'd stop trying to suggest everyone is like them.

DuncanW Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now it's closed again and we live in Camberwell > (below the bridge), it's horrendous again. > > EdCam - are you a troll? Ha! Not literally "below" I hasten to add. Although if you're a goat, watch yourself around these parts. I live between CG and what the estate agents nauseatingly call "the toast rack". About where you'd put the marmalade. Yup - Lyndhurst Grove/Chadwick etc. is awful because of this.

We used to live on CG (at the top end) and when the bridge was completely closed for all that time it was a huge pain. When it reopened with the road narrowing necessitated by the weak bridge, it was perfect. Access both ways but prevention of oversized vehicles using the Grove. There's no room for passing for large vehicles in several places, so opening it with no width restrictions would be horrendous. Now it's closed again and we live in Camberwell (below the bridge), it's horrendous again. They need to strengthen the bridge, open the rod and maintain a width restriction.

I think an Iceland is badly needed in East Dulwich.

Cote is AWFUL. Some of the most uninspiring food I've ever eaten. Le Chardon is worth a thousand Cotes.

I totally disagree. FM Mangal is great. Their hot flatbread is amazing, like crack. Hisar is ok but not a patch on FM M.

DovertheRoad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think Bob B was just joking EDC.... If so, the material and the delivery are poor.

peckham_ryu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Despite all the opprobrium, I would still check > that the local police have been specifically > briefed today on what markings to look out for. > And I'm sorry that this offends right-minded > citizens - but I do mean specifically the police > attending the site today. > > Strangers come to town; construction and scrap are > both staples of itinerant work; scaffolding is > stolen. That might be a case of "two plus two > equals five", but then again it might not. I'm > suggesting suspicion, not marching with > pitchforks. However, if life has not made you so > cynical, then good for you really. > > (I hope you find my antizaganistic aspersions > today framed in less craven forms of grammar. Far > be it from me to induce a Subjunctive Mood > disorder.) > > (Edited for typos) Perhaps you'd be wise to keep your thoughts to yourself unless you've collected some evidence that you have yet to present.

Bob Buzzard Wrote: > Please note this Forum is strictly for discussing > matters geographically encompassed within ED, so > please do not post about Camberwell here, albeit > adjacent to ED. Thank you The Lounge isn't just for ED issues. And many are pleased to know about things that are available nearby. We live too far from Forest Hill, for example, to go there on any sort of regular basis but many forum members do live further down that way and clearly use their amenities on a regular basis. Play forum vigilante in other sections if you like but it's not appropriate here.

We'll have to agree to differ there Jeremy, Wuli Wuli's Sichuan food is ok but no more. Yama Momo isn't bog standard. You can find better Japanese food in London of course but as an alternative in the area and without any competition, it's pretty good. Re Bob's experience - sounds like a rare bad day, we eat there very regularly and it's always better than pretty much everywhere else. Queen's is a brilliant addition to Camberwell Church Street.

We've been in Camberwell for a while now and the only place we make the trip to ED for these days is ToastED and occasionally Yama Momo (which is great but overpriced). We're very lucky in SE5. Agree re Wuli Wuli - their food is no better or worse than any other bog standard British Chinese restaurant. Their Sichuan stuff is better but none of it comes anywhere near Silk Road (which is unlike any Chinese food I've had anywhere else, it's pretty much another type of cuisine altogether.)