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My 12 year old goes to bed at 9.15-9.30pm, his 13 year old sister goes at 9.45-10pm, this is considered normal, if not a bit early amongst their friends. Mine are both up at 7-7.15am for school. No problems so far, but we'd revise the times if there was. LOL at 8.30-9pm Molly. Very funny.
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Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
I know the debate's moved on from the Induction process, but I did say I'd post when I got a reply from the HOM at Tommy's. She emailed me yesterday, she said; dear Sillywoman the process is for the woman to ideally be admitted to a single room on the Hospital Birth centre (labour ward) and for the induction to be started asap. her partner can be with her. In reality there are often delays and the women are advised to go for a walk, sit in the day assessment unit or even go home and return when it is quieter. I certainly wouldn't want women to think that as soon as they come in they get a single room as this will create unrealistic expectations Obviously we aim to do things in as timely a manner as possible but when it's really busy then the women for IOL tend to get bumped to the end of the queue hope this clsrifoes it regards HOM Also, from your stories and speaking to a number of women who've been induced in the last few months it seems that Kings has changed it's policy and is allowing partners of women being induced to stay overnight with them. Will check this though this coming week. All interesting info for those having to make a decision. -
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Since becoming a mum I have noticed that...
sillywoman replied to Dulwich Born And Bred's topic in The Family Room Discussion
. . . I can't keep anything in my brain for more than 5 minutes. Godfish-Mum. . . . my hearing has deteriorated due to too many children competing (shouting) for my attention. . . . nothing is as beautiful to me or can take my breath away (whilst simultaneously driving me to fury) like my children. -
Anyone else booked with the Albany?
sillywoman replied to sandy_rose's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Yes, I read it that way too - as a message of support for Albany, rather than criticism. Peckham_Mum maybe you want to re-read the post? -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
I think tulip's point is that personal stories aren't really all that useful in making a choice between St Thoms or Kings to have your baby. Ultimately you stand as much chance of having an excellent, mediocre or awful experience in one hospital as you do in the other. You should consider other criteria in order to make your choice. -
Yes, Somehow I was expecting it between husband and sons (young buck establishing himself etc,etc) wasn't really expecting to be piggy in the middle with daughter. Don't like it at all . . . . Any photo's gratefully received!
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Thanks everyone for the reassurance. I thought she wasn't alone! I guess my main difficulty is balancing Mr S's expectations of what constitutes normal, and what really is 'normal' for a teenage girl in order to attempt to maintain some semblence of household harmony (getting increasingly difficult).
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yeah, what is that about? SHe had a laundry basket, but mostly uses it to store her school bag in! When she remembers to take it upstairs from the hallway that is grrrrrrr.
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Just as an aside to the thread. Re comfort objects: 12yr old son, 5'4", broad shouldered & deep voiced asked me this weekend to pack me a bag for his sleepover at a friends house, and instructed me firmly not to forget "Rabby and Blankie". Rabby being a one eyed Peter rabbit he's had since he was 4 months old, and Blankie being his manky last bit of baby cellular blanket. Yes, we like comfort objects - Awwwwww!
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Teenage daughters bedroom is worse than a pit - it's a swamp. Mr S takes this as a personal affront. A sign that she has no manners, morals, respect etc.etc. - in essence that we've failed. I have a more laid back approach, in part I think because I was a teenage girl and have a vague recollection that my room looked very similar. I think it's a 'learning stage' & have faith that she'll emerge as a functioning tidyish person. Who is right? Is daughter normal?
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Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Ooh, congratulations veryseriousgirl, and welcome to veryseriousbaby! Actually just remembering the whole new baby glow thing makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. Well done for such a lucid & lovely post - no sign of baby brain at all! SW. -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Yes, this is the situation at Kings, you know this Clare because it was all covered in your NCT class - including that partners wouldn't be able to stay overnight ;-) The only difference from Pickle's time is that now they have a separate antenatal section on the labour ward itself (4 or 6 beds) which is kept specifically for women being induced (and a few other situations). This is still subject to normal visiting hours. You don't get put on a ward unless that section is full. Of course it's all relative and there's some flexibility in this - if you're the only one on that unit, or you get an understanding midwife like Heidihi, then you may be allowed to keep your partner with you, but if you don't ask, you won't get. I've emailed the HOM at St T's for clarification as to whether Tommy's still does the same thing. Will let you know what her reply is because you're right Clare - it's not good if the midwife is giving inaccurate information. edited to say; of course I shouldn't be giving inaccurate information either, and seeing as what you've been told is current practice by the midwife doesn't tally with my understanding of current practice, it would be good to have clarity on the topic so that one of us can alter the information we give. -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Oh Clare, he will be sent home if you're induced. I'm afraid either someone has misinformed you, or my info is out of date- I really hope it's the latter! The set up is the same at both hospitals. If you go in to be induced then you're on a separate ward (not the postnatal ward, but a smaller gynae unit linked to the labour ward), and you are both subject to normal visiting hours until you're in established labour and able to move to the obstetric unit. You won't get the home from home because your labour will have been medically started. Sorry to be such a cassandra. :( -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Lots of personal experiences of good and bad practice at each Hospital on this thread. As someone with fairly close links to the maternity services at both hospitals I've been following this thread with interest.But I do feel I should declare my colours. It grieves me if I'm honest to see a "where's best to have your baby?" title. It immediately sets the two units in competition, which they really are not. The unit's are very similar, both essentially massive Obstetric led units with a similar number of women through their doors each year. Tommy's strength is it's small midwife led unit where a small proportion of women can give birth, Kings strength is that they provide an excellent post natal support service and a lower Caesarean rate. Other than that i genuinely believe that there's not two pins to choose between them. Kings is geographically my nearest and so tends to be the hospital I have the closest links to, so I am quite defensive o their behalf (as you may have guessed if you've read my posts!). I see how the staff (most) work hard to keep everyone safe and well cared for, to not turn away frightened women, and to generally do all they can to give each woman the best birth experience she can have within the constraints they have. I know that those at Tommy's do the same, but it hurts me to see the 'Kings is not as good' tone of a few of these threads. This IS NOT TRUE. KIngs is a world leader in maternity care. We have some of the best midwives and Obstetricians in the world. Tommy's unit is slightly newer, but really that's all. It's just surroundings - and that's only the HFH which hardly anyone ends up in anyway. Given all the statistics and concrete information available (rather than heresay and 'my midwife says . .') I have to agree firmly and wholeheartedly with many of the sensible posters on here and say; if you live in East Dulwich, the best place to have your baby is the closest hospital to you. And that's Kings. You can choose to go elsewhere if you want (and you are very lucky to have two great hospitals to choose from), but you don't get better anything at Tommy's - only more of the same. And if you were only basing your choice on benefit to your baby you'd chose Kings anyway for their postnatal services - so be clear about who your choice is for and why. I'm not aiming this at Clare in particular. She has been offered a choice and weighed the pro's and cons to make her decision. Really I'm just saying that the services at both hospitals are very, very similar. And Kings, like Tommy's is a GREAT hospital, unless you have a specific issue with them (and I know one or two do) there's no sound reason to change. -
helena handbasket Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have yet to hear a worse baby sleep > story than my own (and here I am to tell the tale > ::o) so if it worked for my little bundle of > joy........... > > Would you be willing to share HelenaH - in the interests of solidarity of course ;-)?
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UPDATED: 12th Dec night out - sign up here!
sillywoman replied to Pickle's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Would love to come, but am driving back from Bicester late on 12th so though my heart is willing my flesh will definitely be weak. I'll raise a mug of Baileys & hot choc to you all when I'm safely home & snuggled up in front of 'Casualty' (my secret addiction), and wish you all a very Merry Christmas. SW. -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
ClareC Wrote: > She also said that a high percentage of women who > are admitted to the HfH unit actually give birth > there - the only exceptions being those that > decide they want an epidural and those with > complications (mother or baby). > > Fingers crossed for me starting a good birth > experience thread ;-) Clare you've made the choice that's right for you and that's all that matters in the end. The stats for the home from home are that 18.4% of women booked into it were able to give birth there (2008). Fingers crossed that you are the one in five. I'll look forward to your 'positive births' thread in the new year. -
One of those parenting 'moments'.....
sillywoman replied to The Nappy Lady's topic in The Family Room Discussion
My Mum was a primary school teacher. I well remember the lead up to Christmas. Every year at October half term she and one of the other teachers would write a play. All the kids had a part - each scene done by a different class - and it was mostly done in doggerel, usually on a classic theme (Cinderella,The nutcracker etc.etc), but with a contemporary twist - spice girls one year. Once it was done then the costume making would start. It was almost all done with crepe paper, cardboard, tinsel, glitter, glue and staplers. What happened to crepe paper? The kids made them in school under the guidance of the teachers (materials provided by school), with a few of the Mums coming in to help out. They were fab. The plays were always done at the school in the evenings and the atmosphere was always electric. Going back to school in the dark after a quick tea and getting dressed with your friends. Then desperately scanning the audience of Mums, Dads, Nanas & Grandads to find your special person. Ooh it sends a shiver down my spine. Have to say nothing my kids have done has quite matched up to the special feeling of those school Christmas plays for me. Doing it in the daytime just isn't the same, and their schools don't go much on traditional tales though in the last couple of years the infants have done a Nativity. I do think that as a Mum the school Nativity is a right of passage and the most crucial thing is to remember to take tissues - lots. God bless all your little angels, shepherds, kings, sheep, donkeys and whatever this Christmas. I hope you all have a lovely time and keep lots of lovely memories for the years to come. -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
You're quite right craigy - and Kings is the same, as are all maternity units. If thye feel they are 'unsafe' they will all close their doors and do as craigy describes. I guess it's just that each hospital follows it's own policy on what 'safe' constitutes, and what I aiming to illustrate is that Tommy's policy takes a harder line than Kings. Your personal preference for not being in a broom cupboard is quite understandable - who would put that in their birth plan?! But I don't really think that's representational of Kings labour unit on the whole! I'd also like to cheer Molly on for her lovely post - and I agree, your post was very well balanced with some very pertinent points rationally put Molly. Thanks. -
Yes, in the mid teens age range. If they're within a 15-20 minute travel distance from ED.
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Anyone else booked with the Albany?
sillywoman replied to sandy_rose's topic in The Family Room Discussion
bonce, the other teams will be full up by now, you're right, but I understood that due to their special situation the Albany had a deal going with teams such as The Lanes and Oakwood; that if any of their women wanted a homebirth they would try their best to find a space for them on their teams to facilitate their birth choice. My information is only anecdotal though - so I might be wrong? -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
Clare, If Tommy's are full and they have to close then they will send you to another hospital - Kings probably;-) It is unlikely, but it does happen occasionally (once or twice a year?) -
Best place to have a baby: Kings or Tommy's?
sillywoman replied to ClareC's topic in The Family Room Discussion
bonce Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Both units have the potential to be closed if full.To > have women labouring in broom cupboards if busy, > Whist I agree with the content of your post bonce, I would just point out again that while St Thomas close the labour ward doors if they're full, Kings policy is to do all they can not to close, but rather to find you somewhere other than the labour ward to labour until a room becomes available. otherwise, a very good post. -
Anyone else booked with the Albany?
sillywoman replied to sandy_rose's topic in The Family Room Discussion
If you were booked with the Albany for a homebirth before their suspension, & they can't now give you a homebirth then they should be able to facilitate a transfer to one of the other community teams - including The Lanes and Oakwood. I know a couple of Mums they've offered this to.
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