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tomchance Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not to mention that the income and wealth of > people like Philip Green is hardly a sacrosanct > inevitability, a fair reward for their work. The > market is a pretty arbitrary way of deciding how > to reward people. Tax is one way that we can > redistribute income and wealth to share the good > stuff around a bit more fairly. > > I've just had my rent jacked up by 6% again, > despite having my salary frozen. The tax that > Green et al dodge could easily pay for a national > home building programme that would solve a lot of > the affordability problems we all face. > > I've no sympathy with rich and/or wealthy > individuals or companies who pay less tax than > they should - whether legally or otherwise - when > we face so many problems in this country. Absolutely (tu)

Yep yep yep. And a big YES to Loose Woman- I can't stand that programme!

computedshorty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you all for posting all those packets of my > favourite sweet Jelly Babies through my letterbox, > I can't get the front door open, can somebody poke > a walking stick through and push them away a bit. > The Blackpool Rock is nice but gets a bit sticky > sucking it, it fell on the floor the cat got it's > hair stuck to it, that will keep it warm. (tu)

womanofdulwich Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > thanks Louisiana, I was followong the thread, but > it was def going off on one. > I will sit down and eat my Iceland bread > sandwich.;-) > back to you with the agenda.......... You mean, you were def going off on one!

I think if you saw the figures from Philip Green Reggie you'ld certainly ask why we're broke. It's no silly, small amount that's for sure.

My sister is my best friend :)

I don't shop at Topshop! All my clothes are vintage/second hand. Prices might go up but I'm all for that, cheap throwaway fashion is not the only way to keep yourself clothed when you have little money. Just like shopping at Iceland isn't necessarily the answer for poorer people as some people seem to think is on this forum. Banning Topshop is not the point, the the protesters are merely pointing out an alternative to the cuts. Maximise profits maybe but just because you are a big business it doesn't mean you're going to avoid paying taxes. If this is true what a truely sad society we live in do you not think? Wouldn't you rather see everyone paying their fair share in taxes than pushing through supposed 'necessary' savage cuts that clearly hit the poorest the most? not to mention women?

Er there's making money as any business needs to, and there's greed and profiteering at any cost. I would suggest Philip Green is in the latter category given that he's happy to avoid paying the amount of taxes he should be. This is the whole point of this argument and why the protesters are choosing companies and individuals such as this. It isn't a protest against businesses in general or the minimum wage so please don't shout at me and read the thread properly.

Yes absolutely Louisiana. JS33 I think you've hit the nail on the head with a neighborhood emergency help network. It would be great to put one together.

Womanofdulwich- I think most people on minimum wage would still have to claim some kind of benefit to keep a roof over their head. I wouldn't take the moral highground on this. How about you show a concern at the wages people like Philip Green pay their employees? That's what I was arguing for. If he stopped dodging tax perhaps he could pay his employees a living wage where they wouldn't have to claim benefits. Then you wouldn't need to complain.

Well no matter how much wealth you bring into the economy you're also reaping huge rewards yourself without having to avoid tax. The amount of tax you pay afterall is all relative. Philip Green is hardly a philanthropist and as for jobs..just over minimum wage low skilled retail work- great just what the country needs.

Absolutely agree Sean. Perhaps the protesters are also drawing attention to the idea that perhaps we're all being slightly duped by the argument for the necessity of the cuts when the richest people are avoiding paying their dues. All in it together? apparently not. And if anyone argues for the 'wealth' that Philip Green brings to the economy and the 'jobs' he creates, I will be very worried.

Definitely Mad Men, Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, and am absolutely loving Any Human Heart. Anyone who likes Come Dine With Me should try Dinner Date- it's sooo much better.

Hi, Thanks for all the positive responses and I love all of the advice Computedshorty. Lucyd30, I'd love to join forces, and I live very close to you. Don't know if you have any suggestions about how to get the word out though to individuals? Also, a couple of the posters suggested a charity called Dulwich Helpline which is specifically aimed at helping the elderly.

Thank you :) That's exactly what I meant, not just elderly but anyone who needs help and perhaps don't have the friends/family/support and are not necessarily part of a charity etc. Just individuals. I don't know if anyone will reach out but i'm here if anyone needs me. Do you think this is a good place to put it? Maybe I should put it in the for sale/items offered section?

Computedshorty that's such a lovely way of helping people out. I wonder if it would work if I tried it today? And if your electric went out you'ld be welcome to use mine.

Thank you Peterstorm I'll do that

Yes I did think that, just not sure the best way of reaching out to people

Ah brilliant, I didn't see that, thanks. Well I wasn't sure where to put it but I am in ED and am specifically offering to my local community but would be happy to help anyone who needed it. I thought it made more sense given that I don't know my neighbours and therefore wouldn't want to scare them by going to their front doors. I never answer my own front door unless I'm expecting someone.

Hi, I'd like to offer (free) assistance to anyone in need. I'm young, able bodied and always happy to help my local community. Please PM me if you need any help or know anyone who could do with the help. I don't drive but have carried some heavy stuff over the years! Kind Regards, Zeban

Thank you to the kind person who cleared the snow from around my front door, front path and steps. I'll be putting a thank you note out, might even bake you something :))

That's Huguenot for you, never prepared to agree to disagree!

Bicep-Builder I very much doubt you look like Don Draper

Hi Huguenot, I wasn't conflating the two issues at all, I simply meant that I would question your opinion on any issues regarding human rights given that you've chosen to live in a country where they still have the death penalty.

Human pee sounds more likely