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Luckily I'm not responsible for the repair, I just thought it was rather obnoxious for someone to hit and run the wall! It happened late in the evening when we were all asleep so didn't hear it.

Presumably you drove into it. No idea who you are, but you've made a right mess. Thanks.

Does anyone know of anywhere locally to practice driving? Preferably somewhere deserted as the car does not have dual controls! The learner is taking professional driving lessons from a qualified instructor also but would like more time in the car. Any suggestions?

Lost Type Co's logo reminds me of House Industries! Not nearly as niche but: http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/

Senor Chevalier Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ooh - but I assume it goes wrong if I send to > someone without the relevant add in? Ok got it, no it's no use for document sharing. It's not a system font and it doesn't ship with Office so unlikely to be on other people's machines. Verdana over Tahoma, personal taste. And more readable if used for paragraph text, especially at smaller sizes.

Senor Chevalier Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now I used to be a massive fan of CG Omega You could download MgOpen Cosmetica, which is another Optima rip-off. It's open source. Unless of course you need it to be in Microsoft's "standard pallette"...

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah, then a few years pass, and everyone wants a > traditional pub again, but it's too late, because > it was gutted. Look at The Uplands. ? Sorry think I've misunderstood this... No-one wants to see the return of The Uplands surely? What a dive.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- it's the beer not the pub their judging. I went in the CPT once for a bitter. The barmaid offered me a taste of the guest ales etc etc, it was typical CAMRA pub style service. Problem was, of the other two people I was drinking with, one drank lager and the other was on spirits. They didn't want to sit in the dingy bar with surly locals and furniture that smelt a bit damp just so I could enjoy a "good" beer (it really wasn't). Personally I welcome the change and I'm hoping someone does something with The Castle as well!

Smartphone...

Malambu - bit off topic, but Brockley Bikes do a good general service for ?40 (they do my bike for that and that was over ?500): http://brockleybikes.com/?page_id=360 Full services starts at ?80. Can't fault them, they've always done a really good job.

If it was me, I'd like to get round to putting it on Freecycle or dropping it round to a charity shop, but I'd probably end up chucking it in the bin :(

Well I'll grant that bikes don't need that much maintenance but having only one gear reduces that to near zero! My bike is my commute, so it needs maintaining more often than the car. I only commute 75 miles a week, but even still it needs servicing every 6 months. I used to have a geared bike and I would never go back, not for commuting in London. You can laugh but if you've less parts to break, you've less to replace so save time off the bike and money too. My local shop services my bike for a mere ?40, but that goes up to ?60 for geared bikes. It's not that much money, but a 50% markup adds up over time. I've gone through a fair few chains as well but derailleur gears cause much more wear to the chain and are a pain in the ass all round for going wrong. It's a no brainer to me.

Yup, I ride a single speed bike for a few reasons, none of which have anything to do with style...if you saw my bike there's nothing 'cool' about it, it's a brown turd-like colour for a start. It's cheaper to maintain though - I get a ?20 discount on servicing and don't have to worry about those pesky gears. Oh and I don't jump reds. I'm not a fixed rider though maybe if I was I'd turn into a law breaker, who knows.

Probably urine. Cabbies, bus drivers, lorry drivers. They're all at it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-12937483 No point getting the dulux colour chart out, but the toilet water will dilute the colour quite a bit at home.

Partner and I both gave up using Alan Carr's book. I had a 20-30 day habit for years and quit about four or five years ago now. I have a sneaky cig every now and then if I'm on the lash but I can live with that. My other half hasn't touched a cigarette since she quit though and that was six years ago. It's worth a read, even if you only stop for a few days the book will have paid for itself in the cigarette's you didn't buy :D

?45!? Honestly, oven pride takes out most of the work for you - you leave the racks, trays etc in a sealed bag, take them out some while later and they come out sparkling.

MM it's not impossible, but it would be helpful if you were to clarify your position, at the moment it doesn't seem to be based on any discernible fact. It's not my intention to turn this into a sexual orientation issue, but in the UK CP is not legally possible for heterosexuals and marriage is not legally possible for homosexuals, and as I'm aware there is no formal dissolution process for long term cohabitants, so as it stands we have marriage ending in divorce vs CP ending in dissolution. Ignoring the gay/straight distinction and focusing on one formalised "stable" relationship vs another: "Tables 3 and 4 show that marriages are more likely to end in divorce than civil partnerships are to end in dissolution and that this trend increases as the number of years since marriage or civil partnership formation increases to four years. However it is too early to say whether this trend will continue beyond the fourth anniversary." From the pdf available here What does this prove? Absolutely nothing. Should we be suggesting that straight couples be allowed to have civil partnerships as they obviously last longer than marriages? It's nonsense!! I can't quite believe I've allowed myself to be drawn into this debate as far as I have, and I'm pretty shocked that the debate is even happening but there you go.

I saw a trailer for this on one of my friends Facebook walls a while ago and my initial reaction was: Wow, hasn't Thundercats aged well! Oh dear :-$

Oven pride.

???? it wasn't me that made the distinction between CP and marriage, MM actually said he thought marriage was a "better form of stable relationship". But then his idea that marriage was the most stable was based on some stats that said maried people were less likely to split up, so I provided some other stats that said people in CPs are quite unlikely to split up as well. It's all a bit irrelevant as has been stated above more than once, getting married does not result in (i.e. CAUSE) stability. Anyone can see the argument MM is making is a logical fallacy.

No I'm not making that point SC, I realise the stats aren't comparable but as CP hasn't been around all that long (relative to marriage) there's not much else to go on. What I think I wanted to say is that when people make a commitment to each other that is a stable relationship, whether it's formalised (via marriage or CP) or not. I think it's pretty insulting to suggest to any couple, irrespective of sexual orientation, that marriage will somehow validate, make stable or "better" their relationship. I happen to think it's nonsense and I don't agree that longevity necessarily equates to stability either. But you know, I'm a bit unstable not being married and all!

I agree with you there Bob. You know in 2010, 509 civil partnerships were dissolved in the UK and 6281 were registered the previous year. By my calculations that's a 0.8% failure rate over the year, including anyone who had already registered their partnership in previous years. Source is from ONS here You can believe what you like...

Jeremy Wrote: > You say that you > understand the causation/correlation argument - > I'm not convinced that you do! Absolutely!

If the stats above are right (a third of marriages end in divorce) then we should probably be giving tax breaks to UNMARRIED couples since they won't be divorcing and costing the public purse any money. Oh and if you think about it with MM's statistical hat on, married couples are far more likely to get divorced than unmarried couples so therefore I think we can say with some degree of cofidence that marriage actually CAUSES divorce. Ridiculous thread.

As someone who can't legally marry my other half in the UK, I suppose I'd better let my "current" partner of eleven years know we won't be able to have a stable relationship until the law changes... Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > *Bob* Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > Are you against civil partnerships for hetero > > couples, MM? > > NO - I'm just in favour of stable relationships > and believe marriage to be a better form of stable > relationship.