dulwichmum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Curmudgeon - what kind of sad unfamily friendly > git are you! "Precious first born" indeed, just > because a parent like Grumpydad has a baby to tote > around - not everyone in London has willing > relatives or staff (like I obviously do) to care > for their little ones while they hit the shops. > Life does not stop because we have children you > know, and attitudes like yours - expecting those > of us with children to stay at home, are what > cause postnatal depression, isolation and anxiety > in new parents. Get over yourself. > > Winter Green = Victor Meldrew fair. I'm not sad nor unfriendly I merely commented on the perceived need to take a 5 month old to see Santa (which may or may not have been the case) in a jokey fashion .. and 'precious firstborn' is a friendly joke in my circles reflecting the precious aspect that all first-time parents seem to adopt in the early months/years until they get more experienced or have more children I didn't realise that in other circles parents give up the ability to laugh at themselves? So I shan't get over myself, but maybe you should (parent of 2)