@StraferJack - I don't think that anyone is saying that (I haven't read through the whole thread mind). It's just that suggesting that everyone must receive 60% of median salaries, doesn't make sense (as the median is always a moving target). I do feel for people being paid wages which they can't live on and I think it's ridiculous that we subsidise employers through tax credits and housing benefit payments - it's not sustainable. But, the answer is not the LLW in my opinion. There needs to be a huge investment in social housing first off - something which should have formed part of our recovery plan post recession and may have seen us come out of it more quickly and on a better footing. There needs to be better, more affordable public transport, education and a number of other things - but instead we privatise everything, sell of public assets wherever we can, cut benefits and shift government subsidies away from social enterprises towards private corporations, (who then payout huge figures to executives and shareholders). We're becoming a more and more unequal society and to address that we need a more sophisticated response.