Earl Aelfheah

Have a word Ratty

There is a point about the effect a tube can have in changing an area, but I don't think it's inevitable and fundamentally, I need to be able to get to work after dropping kids at nursery in good time.. Something which is becoming increasingly difficult of late with the carnage at London bridge. Buses are fine if you are not in a rush, but I for one would appreciate improvements to transport.

Repeatedly had trains cancelled recently due to 'lack of train staff'. Not sure why this is suddenly such a big problem. I've stopped using the train for the last week and the foreseeable future. Just can't be bothered with the unreliability and crush of it all.

Thanks for the link Medley - it's a bit difficult to understand. What is the scale for the PTAL number? My address scored 3, but there is no explanation of what this means, or where it sits in the scale.

Yes you're quite right we shouldn't want to see any improvements in transport infrastructure anywhere. Cancel cross rail, hs3, people can just move. Maybe everyone could live next to Clapham junction station.

Interesting to cross reference the above with this map, showing population density in London: http://luminocitymap.org/ What's notable is that the northern line extension serves an area with low population density and good existing transport options. It seems to me that this illustrates the point that the existence of a large, poorly served community is not the main driver in service development, but rather the ability to do a deal which enriches investors via a large taxpayer subsidy.

The option to extend via Burgess Park, Honor Oak and onto the Hayes line, clearly makes the most sense if you're interested in providing frequent, rapid transport services to large inner city populations. Of course, there are always other interests.

Three notable holes in transport provision in inner South London - Brixton Hill, the South of East Dulwich, and North Camberwell / Walworth. North Camberwell probably has the highest population density of the three is the largest 'hole' as well as the most central: http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p519/mclellanstuart/Untitled_zps5ca3bacb.png

Here is a map with a 0.5 mile radius around every train and tube station. You'll notice a hole: http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p519/mclellanstuart/Untitled_zps9966a58a.jpg

I was being ironic / pre-empting the inevitable comment. miga Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Bit sexist innit? > > No.

Bit sexist innit?

Love it! Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sometimes I think this forum is obsessed with > class. > > Louisa.

The northern line extension is ridiculous. It provides a couple of extra stops were there is little existing demand, at massive public cost and with the main people to profit being property speculators. It also diverts the line off it's natural course, driving it into a dead end with little opportunity for future extension. Still residents of Camberwell, whilst crawling along the Walworth Road on the 176, can at least ponder how their taxes are helping boost some Singaporeans investment portfolio.

how depressing

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I hate the way that we look at it as some sort of gift from 'developer money', when in fact it's a massive taxpayer subsidy for investment properties. How about the tax we pay being used to provide us with transport services, minus the siphoning off of loads of it from vested private interests. cle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is 2.5k homes that big a deal compared to > the existing population of Walworth and > Camberwell? I hate this obsession with > regeneration and new developments - god forbid > anyone builds something to serve a long-standing > area. I know it's for developer money primarily, > but also an obsession with shiny new rubbish. Are > there no developer-ready sites along the Walworth > Road catchment?

so nearly 3000 people sign a petition for an extension via Camberwell and are ignored... and apparently that's a good thing? Instead of viewing the construction corporations as kindly philanthropists happy to invest in transport for the good of Southwark residents, perhaps we should consider the fact that they will get significantly more from any deal than they contribute. The vast majority will come from taxpayers (you know those folk already living in Walworth and Camberwell for example), who will be subsidising an 'exciting new investment opportunity' in 'London's vibrant new quater', in order to make handsome returns for overseas investors and Lend Lease or whoever else it is who get's to profiteer from it all. We pay our taxes so that we may have decent public services, including transport. For more than 60 years, Camberwell has had the prospect of a Bakerloo line extension dangled in front of it and now we're told that their elected representatives are going to support the interests of property developers over a well established community - their own electorate?

Dulwuch Park's middle is class. I hate the edges though.

Iceland don't sell them. Bet a Waitrose would.

.... Drug mules selling horse

Ghost guzumpers.

There have definitely been a couple of properties sitting on the market even after price reductions of late. I think that the local market may be cooling a little.

Apparently a garage in camberwell has just sold for over half a million http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/11/most-expensive-garage-in-britain

It is impossible to talk in general terms about whether or not ED is 'worth' the premium. It depends entirely on your circumstance, a subjective judgement of the area and how much that premium represents to you.

If you walk around east dulwich, you'll see it's all big hair, white teeth and gold. Absolutely