malumbu

I've been posting on this forum for over ten years and this is perhaps the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen. I post facts, I post opinion, You suggest that I and others cannot see the broader picture. Please have a good look at yourself. The facts: 1. You were driving in a bus lane. It doesn't matter if that was a metre or a 1000 metres. 2. Southwark as the enforcement authority have the right to issue a PCN 3. There is inconsistency of rules and enforcement. My example is driving around Crystal Palace where you go from 20 to 30 and back to 20 mph. Parking on one side of the road in Westminster, to the other side Camden, where there are different parking restrictions is another example. Such is life. My opinion 4. Local authorities have right to impose penalties. It up to them how lenient they are and whether their approach is proportionate. 5. Restrictions are there for good reason. Sadly some make an innocent mistake, but overall the restrictions are there for a good reason, in particular to protect our environment and promote good health. There is always a balance between bringing the public onside, and alienating the masses - particularly as social media can distort the true picture. Your opinion. 6. You don't agree with my point 4 - you have written much about your views. 7. You don't agree with my point 5. As above. So no matter how unfair it may be, I don't see Lambeth, Southwark or Lewisham letting you off a penalty/speed awareness course when you go from Bromley into one of these Boroughs exceeding 20mph - although speed awareness course is a good example where there is some leniency applied in part as this is one of the few times you will have training after you passed your driving test. Similarly Camden did not apply leniency when they introduced more draconian parking restrictions compared to their neighbours. I've long given up fighting the authorities on these sorts of things. I learned to hard way to be more careful in checking restrictions and keeping my eye on the road. They are battles you rarely win. But please don't insult our intelligence by lobbing blanket statements about my, and others, ability for critical thinking. It's fair enough that you have the different opinions. but please be prepared to debate. That applies to you too @Dulwichway

No such thing as an accident. You are making an excuse for inattentive/poor driving. It's up to the enforcement authority how much flexibility and discretion they use. Just take it on the chin and learn from your mistakes. It took me years to realise that. As for different approaches, as frustrating as that may be, that is life. You'll have different parking restrictions, different speed limits (the short section of 30mph on Crystal Palace parade as you are briefly in Bromley is bizarre, etc. If you want a totally uniform approach across the country then lobby your MP. The local one will tell you that it is Labour policy for local authorities to make local decisions.

I expect that most are just bored, not irritated, by your protestations of innocence.

Do tell me more. Is this we've all gone to hell in a handcart alarmist stuff?

Oh, what I thought was amusing/banter, but I know at times it is not seen that way. I have little sympathy for those that go on and on about PCNs. I've explained my personal journey in earlier threads. I'm no saint. I'd happily have far more speed cameras in particular average speed cameras. Some of my least favourite roads due to speeding traffic are Brenchley, Gipsy Road, Half Moon Lane, and Perry Vale/rise. The ones where cyclists can get squeezed between vehicles and traffic calming infrastructure are the worst. Burbage is another one - unusual as this is a much wider road, but that seems to encourage people to put their foot down even more, and many of the drivers should know better, ie older people probably with families. The next generation are less likely to drive, and more likely to use a variety of means of getting around which will include autonomous vehicles.

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Well thanks for enriching the conversation. Would you chuck Fah - rage in too for his tax avoidance on his property? I expect it was lead story on Jeremy Vine too. Doesn't make it a story, just a bit more of BBC tabloid style sensationalism. There are numerous real news stories in the UK and across the world. And now, apt for Halloween, you have summoned up the ghost of Louisa. So for the third time, will you now eat humble pie?

Oh I have far more, just want to do a drip feed, and if I say too much about my amazing experience and contacts I expect some will try to hunt me down on LinkedIn Read my original post, my friend, I went back to the 00s with the bus lane FPNs, and the CC fine was in 2012. I only drive nowadays to check that school streets and LTNs are appropriately signed, and that turnings at junctions across bus lanes gives you appropriate room to miss the solid line. It's a community service that I provide and I'm happy to report all are good. Now, as I posted in the past. I get it. You are new to an area, it's raining, you have noisy kids in the car, or you just don't clock the signage, You are angry, you feel victimised, you think it is wrong that those who regularly flout the rules don't get caught, you feel that there should be a warning first, and that the cost of the fine exceeds the wrong doing, That's not patronising. That is how I felt in the past. But I've moved on, the odd unfortunate penalty is part of motoring costs, I'm far more careful than in the past in checking signage, particularly parking restrictions, and no longer feel that they are out to get me, but that the restrictions are generally there for good reason. Oh, and hardly ever driving helps.

As said, why are you not eating humble pie for a non-story? I expect that scores of landlords are unaware or made mistakes in this territory. And this is not just the Chancellor but a married couple. It feels like you and others are taking joy in demonising her. The only question would be is the house suitable for renting out? I expect it is, and if not that is up to Southwark to take action rather than keyboard warriors. The only surprises are the expense of licensing - surely time for a thread on "is licensing a money maker for local authorities?". I'm being facetious. And that the cost of rental, which feels fairly reasonable based on this area. By all means go after rogue landlords. Be my guest. I was horrified to see some of the properties rented in London and beyond by family members. Not all bad. Oh and another question. Haven't I got better things to do than comment on this 'no story here' thread? 😁

Wow! Is this the remnants of a wood pigeon? We occasionally see the feathers following a kill but only once have I seen the hawk in the garden and certainly not like your experience.

You should be eating humble pie by now, Why all this interest in unsubstantiated gossip? It feels like you want it to be true.

I understand that she also has numerous motoring offenses, Oh wait a second that was someone else https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y4558r5gko] Sadly a cross bencher so can't blame Starmer for this. Here's a former Tory minister https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65696003

I received two bus lane fines in the 00s, one for cutting in slightly to early on the South Circ. I appealed and they showed me the photo of me cutting in. The second was at around 7.30 on Brixton Road on a Sunday morning, then the bus lanes were timed for rush hour, even if you don't get a rush hour at the weekend, and I simply forgot about them as there was no other traffic on the road. I received a fine for the CC charge on Xmas Eve thinking it was the Xmas hols when CC does not apply. But Xmas eve is still a normal day. Obviously none of this was my fault and the authorities are clearly out to get me.

I'm probably the only one on this forum who has met Edmund King, both with the AA and in a former life at the RAC foundation. In recent years we had a good chat about low emission transport. As said on the other thread, if you don't break the rules you don't get fined. I've turned left at the above junction scores of times and have yet to go into the bus lane.

Just admit that you made a mistake. If you don't break the rules then you don't get fined.

Oh give it a break. We have an MP who makes racist comments, yet our media (and what seems like this Forum) that generally hate Labour (and loved Johnson) are just out looking for the dirt. It's a move on, nothing to see here. Particularly if she used a letting agency.

Funny, people queuing up to denounce Starmer and Rayner, yet virtually silent when a right wing politician does something wrong. I'm giving Starmer credit as not being quite yet right wing, but working on it.

Enforcing speed limits works for most drivers, and if there are serial evaders they will be caught, eventually. Looking back to the earlier photos, someone driving at 30 mph into a solid object will do 50% more damage to the vehicle as someone driving at 20mph.

You put a monetary value on death and serious injury, based on the costs to the health service and social care, and loss of economic activity. And other factors such as impact on family and friends? This report is a bit techy https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5b20bbe240f0b634c24e6265/process-evaluation-of-the-safer-roads-fund-phase-1.pdf From an earlier life I thought an early death was valued at costing a £million plus. But AI is out of touch with work I did many years ago.

Went to a fireworks display maybe 20 years ago at the Crystal Palace, it wasn't bonfire night, can't remember why it was being held, Capital Radio were there. There were people hanging from a crane, classical music, and quiet fireworks, It was lovely, still dramatic with the colours but no loud bangs. Not sure why this hasn't become the norm.

You should be able to watch the road and look out for signage. As I posted earlier. If you can't should you be driving?

You are making excuses again. If you are not aware of coming up to a school you shouldn't be driving. You'd certainly fail your driving test. Ditto for not being aware of signage. I don't understand why you think drivers rights come first over children's safety. You should be going slow enough around schools to see the signage. Even if it means you have to stop.

Not responding to the consultation but I will give my views on the discussion I live fairly close to Goodrich and it is good to see their school street in operation. They are also very supportive of the school run being done on foot and bike, as I expect are other schools in the area.

You mean going over the speed limit? That's fairly common.

I assume that GB News has adverts. Wonder if there is any specification on the types of products and services and a condition on racial and other representation.