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@Rockets As you are very interested in the Sydenham Hill cycle lane, what do you reckon to Brenchley Gardens? I think it is awfully designed, the narrowing, which is intended to slow motorised vehicles down, is a hazard to cyclists as there is not enough room for vehicles to pass cyclists with appropriate room if there are vehicles coming the other way, Cyclists should therefore adopt the primary position, although this seems to p some motorists off. Surely you will agree that Southwark has got this wrong, and on this occasion a dedicated cycle lane, or alternatively shared footpath, would be appropriate. This is about the design of the road irrespective of how motorists use it.

Good heavens, it's been relatively quiet on this forum but since you have started posting again it's gone crazy, From a quick tally today across three threads you have posted 18 times Exceeded by FM - around 24 and Earl 28, although much of this was a ding dong between the two. I'm a mere 8, one more than Cycle Monkey and twice that of Snowy. I doubt if the debate has moved on one jot, and what else does it say? Me included there are other things going on in life, not only on the geopolitical front but, spoiler alert, a very close University Challenge tonight.

It's meant to slow the traffic. Narrows the road, so naturally slows the traffic. That is because before it was a race track up to the cameras. Much nicer now.

I think they are fairly reasonable in this situation.

They've been sold a dream, a lifestyle dream. Not one person owning/running a SUV has posted on this thread to say why they love them. I wager whichever side of this debate you are on, you don't have one. Don't be naive to believe that the manufacturers of virtually any product are not trying to get you to upsale/upscale/gold plate etc, that's how they make the greatest profit In the days before Top Gear got silly, they did an excellent programme on the ideal city car, comparing the main models on sale, and finishing with a line of Fiat 500s, as this ticked all the boxes.

That is getting tedious. Why are you just pursuing your political hobbyhorse?

Small EVs should be the future in metropolitan areas. The first EV I drove was a Leaf. It was wonderful. Only surpassed by the first time I went on electrically assisted pedal cycle. Around the same time I test drove a Tessla model X or S, around the dealership in Shepherds Bush. That was just silly, totally unneeded in the urban environment. But as I pointed out elsewhere, how has much of the industry responded? By developing large SUV variants. Shame on them.

Surely you are not that naive, most politicians put a positive spin when speaking in the public. How have you stopped the small boats? This government has a record investment in surveillance of the English Chanel. But has it stopped the small boats? So ULEZ is good for London. That will do me.

Fortunately this forum is very helpful in pointing out consultations. Thanks for this. I don't need to be told by any group to respond, I am not a number I am a free human.

It has improved air quality, it's ludicrous to say otherwise. The three phases of ULEZ have reduced the number of, and mileage of, older polluting cars. Unless they travel around London, and in this case it is the home counties' problem, then there is nowhere for older more polluting cars to go without paying, unless they are a minority of those obsessed with short journeys that miss out any of the numerous ULEZ cameras. Can you not just agree that in principle it is a good concept.

That's worrying, who are these activists? Why have they come to our part of SE London? Unlike me I bet they don't even know the roads affected, use the shops, the 176/185/P13, drink in the Castle, occasionally go to DHFC (much more in the past). Out of interest who amongst us actually live on Melbourne Road? I'm a mile or so away but it was once one of my commuting routes and I now use it when over at TJ.

As in my earlier post I can't be assed to read the report but with a reduction of older polluting vehicles this has to be good for those living on the South Circular as this was formerly a boundary road. I couldn't give a fig about the outer boroughs, were they to introduce 20mph on all residential roads and provide more infrastructure for cycling I may think differently.

Ah, good reminder to post about that cycle lane. It's as much as narrowing the road to deter speeding, to pretty good effect. Rather than criticise I'd congratulate Southwark for some joined up thinking. What is your problem with that, surely there must be something you like about Southwark. As a cyclist do you not welcome safer cycle routes?

Yes it is right to discourage unnecessary journeys and smarter use of vehicles. Suggesting that the authorities make road repairs and improvements longer is conspiracy theory territory.

So you are saying every Mayor of London, the Heads of GLC, London County Council and whatever predated that all hate South London? Really? You are come over a little bitter. Have you used the new tube lines? London Overground (as was), Elizabeth line, Jubilee Line extension. The numerous new and enlarged stations in South London? Extensive suburban train network?

Suggest you Ab and FM actually read what I said rather than automatically jump to the wrong conclusion. At no point did I infer that I knew better or was telling others what to do. That would be silly.

Odd post. London continues to be full of green and public space. Labour kicked off the creation of a massive new park with revived and cleaner waterways in East London. Perhaps a mountain hut in Montana off grid may be more suitable for your needs, running water, timber, deer, a lifetimes supply of shotgun pellets, and hunting knives will do you fine.

How do you judge London as being filthy? Have you been to Manilla, Jakarta, Mexico City, Paris, in the height of summer? All relative but London's air is far cleaners than recent decades, as industry has all but gone and emissions far less polluted. Makes me wonder why you live in this dirty city.

Thanks for the positive, or dare I say constructive (!) post. Others feel they know better than the professionals. Surely there are other things to occupy your time? Whoops, and mine too 😁

Yes, no issues with more blue badge parking. The issue I have is able people using those with a mobility issues as an argument for keeping the status quo.

I'm not, but just making the point that driving on a blue badge is not the only way those who have walking issues can maintain their mobility. As March points out there are adapted bikes and wheels for wellbeing do a wonderful job in giving an experience of the different options. And mobility scooters. I have no idea which is the most suitable option for an individual. Maybe more than one.

I'm sure they take calls, TfL is a bit old school. Register your vehicle for automatic payment should a similar thing happen in the future. I got caught on Xmas eve ten years ago stupidly thinking it was the holiday period. Only time time I've ever driven through it during the charging period. You can go through E and C if you stay in the ring road but it's a bit convoluted. As others will know from threads elsewhere I usually take public transport or cycle but that is not relevant to your question.

Dunno why people can't be civil rather than aggressive/ passive aggressive. Dunno why you are now stirring things. Petty insults aren't helpful to a grown up debate.

There was a brief discussion on the Lounge about the good old days of the Forum and the drinks where people with differing views seemed to get on fine with each other. Can't find it or I would give you the link @Earl Aelfheah or @Sephiroth I think one of you had said something along these lines. Yes go for it Sue!

There are things people moan about, and at the same time things people should campaign for. I've said so many times it is a shame with so much energy going into anti this, anti that, and anti the other time could be better spent. You've identified a good cause. Go for it, I will happily support if I am permitted.