LadyDeliah

The Americans are calling for his US Titles to be investigated! Could this be the beginning of the end for the Murdoch empire?

ChavWivaLawDegree Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jonboy - "As to joining the political process - i > would be able to only for a short while until the > media dug into my less than squeaky history. I > didn't spend my formative years planning to be a > politician so now have "history". Oh well." > > If we allow the media to dictate who we should > have as our politicians, or demand they are > squeaky clean, then we will always have the same > types of people running things and nothing will > change. Hmmn, premonitions?

I lost my iPhone somewhere in the vicinity of Dulwich Library or the park this morning - this was returned to me this morning by a lovely man in Nunhead and I am so grateful to him. I didn't expect to get it back and he has totally restored my faith in people. Lovely guy.

It's a bit more complex than that Frankito. Humans did not evolve eating huge amount of carbs but the modern diet is full of carbohydrates. The effects of a high carb diet over time can be higher than normal insulin levels and lethargy which add to your body fat. The amount of food obviously makes a difference, but the type of food you eat (and drink) can make a big difference too.

I had a Blackberry and thought it was the bees knees when I had it, but I've had an iPhone since summer last year and I totally love my iPhone. It's a completely different type of experience but syncing it with some applications including my google calender can be a pain in the arse plus I've been unable to sync it with my itunes unless I deactivate my firewall, since I upgraded the software about 3 months ago. A very geeky friend of mine wouldn't touch an iPhone and swears by Android, so maybe I'll check out some of the Android phones when I'm next due for an upgrade.

Fingers in ears, I'm not listening! He's fantastic and I love Luther!

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One Habit I have kept from Childhood is I just > cannot stop getting Older. Lol, that's a coincidence, me too!

"you have introduced an extreme example of male hyper-sexuality which adds not much to the argument."

Why conflate those with possible symptoms of sex addiction with people who just like a lot of sex? That is like accusing those who like haute cuisine of being in the same category as someone who is 20 stone. In order to take out gender bias, you have introduced an extreme example of male hyper-sexuality which adds not much to the argument. Ans as for the who will notice comment, I still think it was an indication of your own feelings towards those who openly 'flout' their enjoyment of sex, instead of respecting your 'worthy' self-contraint!

StraferJack Wrote: > These guys are not > unhappy because of an external judgement but > because they have an itch which won't go away no > matter how often they scratch it. For them it's > not about quantity or quality of sex but about > constant self-congratulation > > So male or female, you put yourself at the centre > of any equation and unhappiness will result. For > a while it will seem as if the sun can't touch you > but, come the descent, who will notice ? This is just crying out to be descontructed! These guys are unhappy because they have an itch that just won't go away - a sex drive higher than their supply of sex, I imagine. And this in your judement makes them unhappy. So what is the solution? To deny ones drives and conform to societal expectations? To find a partner who has an equally high sex drive? To pay for or find multiple partners? It is a problem in a society where earning a living is more important than having sex. I imagine there was a lot more time for sex in pre-historic societies and a high sex drive would have been advantageous in the spreading of ones genes, and so naturally selected to some extent. But this model of human being probably has less advantage in our modern urban society where production of wealth is prioritised and society moulded to fit around this goal. People who 'waste' a lot of time having sex, are not as sought after (by some!). For them it's not about quantity or quality of sex but about constant self-congratulation - How do you know people with high sex drives don't want quantity AND quality? And what is your idea of quality in any case? And waht kind of negative moral judgement are you trying to make by claiming that high sex drive individuals are somehow self-congratulatory? I think it is actually the opposite. Most of the people I know who have high sex drives, begin to feel that there is something wrong with them, because that is what is the current 'reality'. So male or female, you put yourself at the centre of any equation and unhappiness will result. For a while it will seem as if the sun can't touch you but, come the descent, who will notice ? - Oh Dear - you are really being condescending here. Why will looking after ones own happiness and sexual needs result in unhappiness? How very Catholic of you! I think the reverse is actually true. Those who deny themselves sexual release end up unhappy and often quite twisted. The second part of that sentence is truly hideous. Envy at the people who 'feel the sun cant touch them'? and descent? The fall of Eve? You have a few issues, methinks, with heavy Catholic indoctrination, which appears to be colouring your view of sex, something which is a perfectly natural pastime and which we are all programmed to enjoy. ...and the coup de grace! 'Who will notice' you actually seem to believe that all the people having wonderful sex around the world are doing it for people like you to notice? Is that why so many people feel so repressed they have to sneak around in order to release their sexual energies? People have sex for many reasons, maybe because when it's amazing they get great orgasms, or feel stronger bonds with their partner, release tension, whatever, but I doubt many do it just to make you feel inadequate.

I think you make vaild points Hugo, but she may just have been someone who enjoyed a lot of sex for it's own sake. Who knows?

I think it's difficult to judge because of the sensationalist aspect of sex. She might have been fucked up but if you take the sex out of the equation, it makes me think of the type of people who put themselves through all kinds of physical damage to sail single handed around the world or walk to the poles etc. I think there is a bit of insanity in anyone who pushes their bodies that hard to achieve some goal or other. I think the point about actors etc having problems with mental stability made by Hugo is probably valid too, but how far do we go in protecting people from themselves and why is a woman having a high sex drive and many sexual partners in itself seen as something indicative of mental illness/poor morals/low class etc? I dont know Annabel Chong so I can't really comment on her mental health, but one thing I'd like to explore is the idea of causation. If she did have damage, was she attracted to a sensationalist sexual act because of any damage or did the attitude of people to her because of her high profile sex life, cause the damage? Or is the act of sex with multiple partners damaging in itself? I don't think the latter is necessarily true, but I do think the first 2 options are more likely. If you fall off your bike and badly hurt yourself, some of you will never go on a bike again, but others will face their fears and try to relive the painful incident but control the ending. This is the way some people heal themselves after suffering trauma. If That was the choice of Annabel Chong, then did societies' conflicted attitude to women and sex actually cause any further damage (if there was any) and not the acts themselves?

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sex the Annabel Chong Story > > The documentary reveals to the viewers that she > was gang raped as a student living in London and > describes her many complex emotional issues, > including signs of depression, self harm,and > substance abuse.] Rosie that is just a piece about the film Which was produced by a young film student. The substance abuse and depression quoted in the piece have no source either. I'm not sure how you can say she is still messed up Hugo, or that she ever was on the evidence I've seen, when she is living a perfectly normal life with a normal career after deciding to finish with porn. > I was aware of the event at the time. Initially I > thought more power to her elbow, or indeed, > vagina. Until I looked into it more, and then I > felt sad.

Not sure about the lack of testing. I know Wikipdeia is not authority, but it seems to suggest that there was testing and that when she'd had enough of the porn thing she just went off and did web design. She doesn't seem to be mentally ill from the Wiki page. She seems to have made lucid choices and was highly intelligent. The gang rape must have had an impact, but it doesn't seem that she became some kind of victim as a result.

Thank you DamienH. I wanted to say something similar, but I doubt I'd have bothered to write such a thorough post. I was brought up as gender neutral as my 1960's idealist mother was able to manage and have found the disparity between people's views of male and femal sexual promiscuity depressing. No-one suggests that a man who has many sexual partners is mentally ill. Why must a woman who does the same thing have to be? The issue of sexual addiction is an interesting one and I think is real, but even this is not seen as gender neutral. If men admit to having a sexual addiction, they are accused of making excuses for cheating, but the few women I can think of who admit to having an addiction to sex are seen as mentally unstable. Challenging societal sexual norms used to get you sectioned in a mental hospital if you were female. Although we don't seem to be locking up sexually non-conformist women any longer, attitudes towards such women don't seem to have moved on very much.

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree. Many many around me need to find a book > and a history of the sex. Not me though. I wrote > the book. > > No no, I didn't, LadyD did. > > I just read at her knee. I am flattered! lol

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Hunter one minute, farmer the next; > psychotherapist today and chest thumping pounding > paramour tomorrow. Hugo is clearly a man of hidden talents!

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LadyDeliah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Julie Bindel is a mysoginist who hates women who > love hetrosexual sex and she needs to be gagged, > or ignored. > > It's her hot voice. Can she not do what she wants > with it? Lol, I guess so!

Julie Bindel is a mysoginist who hates women who love hetrosexual sex and she needs to be gagged, or ignored.

And: http://observers.france24.com/files/obs_article_images/cropped520_slutwalk-4.jpg

Here you are Hugo: http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00604/14-slutwalk_604880t.jpg http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000NTmJpe9HTpg/s/500/500/SLUT-WALK-LONDON-WOMENS-CAMPAIGN-AGAINST-RAPE-ENGLAND-UK-YES-TO-SEX-NO-TO-ASSULT-BRITAIN-000.jpg

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fair play to LadyDelilah is she has inside > knowledge on the aim of the walk, but the posters > read 'Because we've had enough' rather than > 'Because we're not getting enough'. ;-) Ho Ho Ho

I'm with RosieH and Moos on this. Ms Coran seems be the one who has muddled thinking and doesn't know what exactly she is objecting to. Her piece just screams, look, I am so cool and not like those silly women who think they can change things.

Ok, I'll PM you my details and maybe we could start next week.

I have changed my working pattern, so don't have to get up so early. Does anyone fancy meeting up twice a week at around 9am for a run in Dulwich Park?