Hmm, food for thought. In my experience it's because the men who can satisfy you physically don't tend to be the ones who satisfy you mentally, so it's a toss up. Do you go for the stimulating conversation and mediocre sex, or forgo the intellectual and get your groove on regularly. Not only that, women who are more demanding sexually, are likely to be less attractive to some men, than a woman who likes to please the man more than take her own pleasure, for a variety of reasons. I think to say there are no good men out there is lazy and inaccurate. It would be more accurate for women like the ones you have described SJ, to say there are no men who can both shag and talk well enough to satisfy her tastes!