Admittedly I can't say with certainty that I wouldn't call the people you're describing as hipsters. Because I lack the psychic ability to know who you were thinking of. I was going by the friends of yours that I've been introduced to, or seen on social media. And by band videos you've shared. Haven't ever seen one of those and thought hipster. I think you make a fair point about cash flow for clothes, but I disagree that having to buy second hand means you have to dress in a particular way. We all have our budgets (my clothing budget is tiny) and we choose what to buy with it. I don't judge books by cover, and thinking someone looks a bit silly does not mean I make any judgement about them as a person. But equally human nature means that we're likely to be drawn towards the books that we think we'll enjoy the most. But again we're talking about different people. You're talking about the people that bought the thick rimmed glasses out of necessity. I'm not. ETA response to RosieH but started it an hour ago and got side tracked so cross posted.