StraferJack

"I'm certain you are well above all that though." snidey comment Otta - what are you saying? When I condemn Suarez now (and last summer when I said I hope we don't sign him) are you saying I am above all that or that you don't believe I am above all that & that I'm only saying it because "Nothing anti Liverpool, just pro their own teams. " which is it? i saw he was a loose cannon long before this, have been consistent in that view and am using his latest episode to repeat why he is a loose cannon and deserves the ban. Why is that a problem? Why do you say you're sure I'm above this? Anna saying why aren't people talking about neymar's elbow? Because normally they would be BUT SOME IDIOT TOOK A BITE OUT OF SOMEONE FOR THE THIRD TIME IN RECENT YEARS. Do you not see why they aren't comparable?

Tell us Anna. Why might that be? Lest anyone put words in your mouth And "holier than thou ". Where does that come from again ?

That'll be same one I posted yesterday them sue?

Elbowing goes on in football. This we know when refs see it it's punished But anyone who is claiming biting is just another " thing " is just way off "Holier than thou". Can you back that up in any way anansfield. Because equating biting with elbowing isn't really a thing. As people have tried to explain at length.

But net benefit?

In the context of them not winning anything. Yes he isn't great player and Liverpool have benefitted. I could have worded it better

Liverpool have gambled on Suarez and lost They knew he did this before more than once and stuck by him They knew he angled to get away last season and stuck by him He was a big racist and they stuck by him And with him they have won nothing. Liverpool fc hoped they would benefit from his skills. They haven't. Now they can choose to stick by him or let some other suckers deal with him But as a club they are bigger than any single player and should be planning accordingly

Talk of "affording" ethics misses the point of what ethics is It isn't a product you buy off a shelf It's doing the right thing even at personal cost (monetary or otherwise) You paying someone in "cash" is up to you. Onus is on the recipient to do right thing. It's the old " would you pick up a suitcase with a million quid in it of you knew doing so would kill x number of people" chestnut isn't it

Truly the years around the millennia were good times quids

Being a football fan is weird. We do know it's many of the things you say But there are small pockets left of "the right thing" Wenger offering sheffield utd a replay when kanu and over mars combined to score is the first example that popped into my head Fowler telling a ref it wasn't a penalty

Liverpool ban was second offence This time is third offence Not hard to see the thinking behind it Anyway instead of asking why he is banned from club duty, ask why the club don't ban him anyway. Honestly if he was an arsenal Player I would be embarrassed and would want Wenger to just get rid. I wouldn't want him wearing arsenal colours again

If only be been told by someone before that this sort of behaviour isn't acceptable

To any club thinking of buying him as well.. This is what you are buying. Any club with him on their books is subject to this

I think Liverpool fans should focus their ire in Suarez After the second bite and 10 match ban and all the support from the club there must have been awareness that another incident wouldn't just be another 10 match ban. He's the culprit in all of this. FIFA had to act so quickly to remove any ambiguity when Uruguay still in middle of World Cup. Club. Country. Doesn't matter to him. He could do the same anywhere now as he has proven.

" go to one of the campsites with a groovier, slightly feral feel" crystal palace park

Seconds later this article arrives http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jun/25/luis-suarez-giorgio-chiellini-violence-deceit?CMP=twt_gu It's very interesting

But in boxing, one fighter comes off badly all the time Biting isn't the norm there either.

"The greens"???

So is there anything about a repeat biter in public that would warn us ? I'm sounding like Danny mills now saying "lock him up ". I don't mean to do that. But it's not behaviour we should just shrug off either. Any human repeatedly biting other humans.... It's not normal behaviour! Something is clearly wrong

It's occurred to me too Jah. Would anyone be surprised if Suarez does something similar in the future? This whole notion of "biting? Something and nothing in scheme of things" is bizarre

PLENTY to read about the background here http://tinyurl.com/oz83ox5

Doesn't sound like there is anything to enforce tho? ie there isn't any such restriction placed on planning

"And if he played for any of the teams people on here support, I imagine they'd also not want to see him banned for their clubs. " well i can answer that - I would want shot of him if he was at Arsenal. In fact when we "bid" for him last year this is what I said "It?s one of the most heated discussions I can recall amongst Arsenal fans. Those of us who suggest we don?t want someone of his character at the club are shouted at for lacking ambition. You just know those same people were at front of the Q condemning him when he played for Liverpool I don?t think he will sign for Arsenal, and I hope he doesn?t"

"Not quite following your post Strafer - which may be my failure ,not yours ! I understand about needing less cars and definitely needing affordable housing . " nope, more likely my fault. "My point was - planning permission shouldn't be granted if it's dependent on a condition that can't be enforced ." fair point - but it's hearsay at the moment still. be intersting to see if anyone can shed more light

sorry otta I didn't think I was accusing you of anything major or serious - was just something I was picking up from posts here and elsewhere. No offence meant and if I got wrong end of stick I hold my hands up