Michael Palaeologus

I had Heinz tomato soup (a popular choice) and some clementines. Sort of liquid lunch.

ESCAPE Anna ESCAPE!

I have a pack of Kerygold in my fridge - just to show how open minded I am.

I'm in, might be a tad late and will need tuition.

With that I agree. I think that the reaction of the state to terrorism is based on historic experience. Thus the constant reminders and the demands for vigilance are justified because we, the public have to be the eyes are ears of the state. So not hype, but experience. However, to then balls up as completely as they did at Vauxhall is a systems failure of epic proportions.Then to obstruct the investigation (which was your original point) is unforgivable. He should go.

Birmingham pub bombings - part of a 1970s IRA campaign of bombings in the mainland UK. 21 people killed in a series of bombs in cellar bars of central Birmingham. Many more maimed for life, created enormous strains between the Birmingham Irish and the rest of the city's population. We SHOULDNT forget history -this is the only way that we dont make mistakes twice. If people dont know about our history of terrorism, then they need to surf the net and learn. Terrorism did not start on 9/11 - many, many people lost their lives before then and many lessons were learned about how to deal with a terrorist threat. Sadly those lessons are so easily forgotten.

I came into work on the Tube the day after the London tube bombings. People were scared but quite defiant. The driver came on the Tannoy to give a standard announcement and then said "When I started work I thought I would be driving an empty train through empty stations, but I am not. Thank you" Brought a tear to my eye.

Are you infering that atrocities such as the Birmingham pub bombings were hyped up?

I would build a huuuuuge football watching room with multiple TVs - where all the footie fans could watch their beloved teams. Once in, I would shut the door - and let them get on with it and leave the rest of us in peace. How the footie fans would get on with the multiple Transvestities I dont know - but it would make an interesting experiment.

Albedo zero point three nine

HeidiHi has a particular attachment to Turkey, although I too am a bit confused about the claim that Turkey has unusually suffered from bombings.

Quiet Room and cool pub dog - sounds interesting, as long as the dog isnt the scroffulous Mutt that DM keeps in her handbag. Local bands night would be good, as long as they were as good as the combo at the Keef wedding. If you dont make profits - what will you drink? I thought that was the whole point of owning a pub.

Time flies by then you're the driver of a train Pulling into Camblewick stoned out of your brain Under bridges over bridges, to our destination Careful with that spliff Eugene it causes condensation

With an attached health spa?

They have to give due warning before they shoot, even if it is 7 times. Two coppers, two guns, one fired 3 times, one 4 times - would have taken about 2 seconds in all with automatics. If UK Police shoot, it is always to kill - they are only allowed to shoot if they believe that the lives of others or themselves are in imminent danger, thus they shoot to kill, the idea that they can shoot to wound or disable is TV show fantasy. One shot to the head does not guarantee a kill and so could mean that a bomb could be detonated. 7 shots is grim but understandable. Besides 7 shots or 1 shot, the poor sod is still dead. The precise number of bullets expended is a bit of a sideshow.

I too have shopped in the Tuscan Co-op.

The Dead Parrots sketch?

Was stood on ED station this morning, gazing at the trees - and it came to me; We are of course in "leaves on line" season. The season when the TOCs can have a breather because they have the excuse to end all excuses for shoddy service. Having said that the train was on time and I got a seat - so there you go.

and so: Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends So glad you could attend, step inside step inside ..

Mentioned this one before, but: Spring a few years ago - was in Brussels on business. Sat in restaurant on my own, so people watching. In walked a man-mountain in bush shorts, shirt and hat - looked like a right pillock, but on a mammoth scale. Not to be forgotten. Late Autumn same year - stood in a "line" for the Backdraft ride in Universal Studios, Los Angeles, turned round and the man-mountain was stood behid me - still looked like a mammoth pillock, but pinker. Spooky.

I agree Anna. However, I do think that there was a major cock-up with their Intelligence. The senior Police echelons should have known who he actually was - we live in the ultimate surveillance society after all. The policemen who tackled somebody who they truly believed was an armed terrorist were incredbly brave. The incident management system that led to them gunning down an innocent man was fundamentally flawed. The buck therefore stops with the Officer at the very top of the Met. He should go.

DoitDoitDoit Anna - dont let the health-fascists win! No beer AND no bacon sandwiches (probably) - Lordy what a weekend.

"Health Spa" :'( "Beers" >:D<

I am (as ever) up for a curry.

When there is a grouse shoot in Peckham Rye. One simply employs peasents from Peckham as Beaters - dontchaknow.