El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ok, it's a pic soundbite, but it neatly > illustrates the point about Europe. > > UKIP simply want to take britain out of europe > full stop, they don't care about Britain's > interests or what's best for britain, it's just > gut nationalist politics pure and simple. > > Europe does actually change, it's very easy to > achieve things and make differences within a supra > national forum which has at its very heart the > desire for cooperation and progress between > nations. > > Farage could have done something, but would rather > use it as yet another stick to bash the EU with > (whilst claiming expenses for his absenteeism) > > And those are the sort of arguments that should have been used, rather than the 'racist scumbags' tacticts that social media has been awash with for eons now... ...as I've said before many people on the left's delusional belief in their moral superiority on practically all issues (not just immigration/Europe) which somehow makes shreiking 'bigot/fascist/Capitalist pig/Earth Raper/Climate Change denier' etc etc to ANYONE who has a differing view to the 'party line' is counterproductive, and, er, actually a bit 'facsist' Please note I said some not all Edited to add Not all