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As even some commentators in the Guardian/Indie and others on the left (and even our own Ratty) have pointed out IDS may be a bit of a oddity and was a a massive failure as leader of the tories but he has probably spent more actual time in our most strickened and poorest communities in the last 5 years than any other minister or past-minister in any party, you don't have to agree with his conclusions or what he's doing but to say that he's not sincere in his belief that his proposals will make it better for the poor and is rubbing his hands with glee as he cuts away the welfare state is horsehit, as even most Labour MPs acknowledge.

Sean - it's true. The relentless shouting of "Tory Cuts" - and what would Labour have been doing had they won?, smashing up Tory HQ (didn't Labour introduce tuiton fees?) and the shrill, shreiking, relentless, screeching (with an enoromous amount of glee of rediscovering the 80s on many parts of the left rather than any real concern for the good of our country, economy and, dare I say it the poor). Meanwhile the coalition has to make some very tough, responsible decisions many of which will be enormously unpopular as Labour would have had to done if they'd been re-elected...although I think many of their mps and much of their support are much happeier in this no responsibility, shreiking mode...as the great welsh winbag put it "We've got our party back"...yup irresponsible and self-indulgent and potentialy unelectable. Funnily enpough I think your posts on this and other similar threads have been pretty considered..I think you recognise that there is a lot of shreiking going on

6.30 Nay 8.30 Yay :)-D

It gives me great pleasure to type the words... wot Sean said. Has been known before.

It's the liberal equivalent of the Daily Mail on here once again folks. Featuring "Back to victorian times", "Tory Millionnairres", "destruction of the welfare state"....does anybody actually look at these proposals rather than the howling headlines of the usual suspects? Don't see much evidence...Daily Maillike crap from the other end of the political spectrum.

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You're right Woofster, Lewes Bonfire night was > simply brilliant! > > After the weird and very LOUD parade (Mrs Ben now > has an authentic shrapnel wound from an exploding > banger barrel) we hit the Commercial display > (there are six odd) with giant bonfire complete > with exploding Pope and Barack Obama. Great > atmosphere, a drop of Harvey's on Carnell's tip at > the Brewers Arms and behind it all something > rather deep rooted that I can't quite put my > finger on.... As a Jock I think you should count your lucky stars you managed to get out of Lewes with a mere shrapnel wound

No I mean the black girl with the big thighs from brum

I'm having a great night at Poker in HORSE (Hold 'em, Omaha Hi/l, Razz, Stud, Stud hi/lo) tournament currently 5th out of 100 entrants with only 27 left so on for a big pay out plus won 2 Omaha hi/lo single table tournaments for $26 each, I love playing 3 tables at a time.

yup. I had a small piece :)) What price 9-0 for The Hoops though?

*Bob* has ruined Matt for me. He has got a whiney voice. Wagner marches on majestically. The Brunmmie bird will go this week.

Harry's not going to like that goal :))

...and then it's DVDs

Ours get about 6 hours :))

I know. It's louder thn the fireworks.

:(

You end up plonking them down and then sitting and watching it too :))

I had just finished my poker am heading for the fridge and was going to start on him...he's a broken man I tell ya Woof

Gardener's world just finished

is the non-drinking old misery guts about tonight? I fancy getting lashed and winding him up

That thread is a place of pure filth, I was shocked.:-$

Devil Woman - Sir Cliff

I dunno, but the word cesspit will feature

We could preserve him and stick him in a glass case in the atrium at Iceland, like Jeremy Bentham

White Collar workers of the world unite you have nothing to lose but your paperclips

So are BBC journalists on strike today or not? The coffee bars of Hampstead must be chocker.....