????

..erm....I'd heard it before

nope, I worked it out.......erm.....

People who pay taxes, haven't got expense accounts and are finding things tough are below contempt to the metropolitan elite of SE22, who are about as out of touch as Oliver Letwin's Tennis court repairs. Posturing "above the masses" crap.

Kanu

yup - mightly piseed off they look like scraping it:(

....Sean Bean, Neil Warnock....enuff said

Parliament needs blowing up, that's all *refound anarchist quids

...you happy with what they are doing with our money....or are you just above all this annoyance and petit borgeois anger? I know many poeple who work bleedin' hard for bugger all and whose taxes shouldn't go on John Prescott's bog, but they are just ordinary non-metropolitan people...who probably read the Daily Mail or even The Sun....

You pay my deposit and I might - in the meantime I'm getting on with earning money in a real job earning exports for my country, paying taxes and not telling people how to live their lives whilst sticking my own kids in private school and sticking my nose in the trough......

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But who is going to pay for this serviced > apartment? The taxpayer. > > In central London, 600-odd managed apartments > isn't going to come cheap. > > Out of my own ignorance, which MP tried to get a > B&O TV? How about the Olympic Village when the athletes have gone...bung the twats in Stratford, Jubilee stright into Westminster. Plus, David, you talked earlier about insecurity of job.for MPS!!!!..Us in the Private Sector would love 5 year guaranteed contracts, with plenty of perks and non-compulsory attendance.....

What mikecg said - walk away for a while, don't overload

mmmm....but you rent for ever where as a mortgage is normally done in 25 years...so no more payments and you won an asset. Also, calculations of rent vs mortgage are short term so tend to ignore: 1) increase in asset vale 2) inflation Ask someone what the rent was on say a 2 bedroom house in East Dulwich in SE22 was 24 years ago and what interest payments where for someone who got a 100% mortgage on a 2 bedroom property 24 years ago...then compare what the latter is paying against the renter now!

Well at least the Hammers didn't let you down Annas

It was hardly a pricless Fresco in the first place was it.....really

Hope your dad had a good day anyway ladyG

That I fancy them beyond belief and that they're bright.....My gorgeous missus ticks both boxes

Man U 2/1 to beat Boro!!!!!!! Nah. Thanks for the Zola info though

Folks of Nunhead having one of their dogfights or similar malarkey

Dream on, dream on

Multi-millionairre Babara Follet, ?25,000 on security because she got mugged and felt insecure.....paid for by you and I...whose really been mugged here?

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Whole heap o' sense from messrs Mark and *Bob* > there. > > I can't imagine most people would behave any > differently given the same rules - and I've heard > many people admit as much on the radio from back > when they used to work for companies that were > generous with expenses. It's time to change the > rules, so let's do that but spare the moral > outrage. And bear that outrage in mind next time > you submit a home contents claim on your insurance I've never made one or on travel- and if i did it would be honest and possibly scrutinised by a loss adjustor...don't assume your attitudes to insurance are everyone's ..although sadly they're probably the norm going by people's replies on here

...and how are they spending the rest of my money, probably REALLY REALLY well.....

...oh so it's alright then, everyones up to it, no moral compass needed here by our law makers paid by us, move on, everyone.....silly me for finding it an outrage

it might not make Friday afternoon

Gordon Brown claimed back ?6,000 after paying his brother for cleaning at his Westminster flat, it has been reported. It is among details of expenses claims made by Cabinet ministers which are to be published by the Daily Telegraph. No 10 said Mr Brown reimbursed his brother for the share of the cost and did not profit at all from it. The paper also says Jack Straw used his expenses to claim back the entire council tax on his second home despite already having a 50% discount on it. Mr Straw said all his claims were within the rules and that he spotted errors himself and repaid the money. The newspaper has obtained details of receipts for claims made by the prime minister, Mr Straw, Chancellor of the Exchequer Alistair Darling, Communities Secretary Hazel Blears and other senior Labour party figures. The BBC's Political Editor Nick Robinson said the claims were an embarrassment for the Cabinet and Parliament and showed how lax the system of allowances had become. Cabinet details The details of all MP's expense claims since 2004 are to be published in July under a Freedom of Information request, the result of a long-running battle over MP's expenses. It is reporting that Gordon Brown's brother, Andrew, received ?6,577 over 26 months for cleaning services at the prime minister's private flat in Westminster. No 10 told the newspaper that the PM shared a cleaner with his brother and "reimbursed him [his brother] for the share of the cost". The paper also says Gordon Brown claimed for the same plumbing work twice at his constituency home in successive quarters. However, No 10 said the Parliamentary Fees Office accepted this was done inadvertently and had written to Mr Brown to apologise for not spotting the mistake. It will reveal that Mr Straw claimed his entire council tax bill for his second home despite already enjoying a substantial discount on the bill, worth a reported ?1,500 a year. A spokesman for Mr Straw said all his claims had been made in accordance with Commons rules. While there were errors in the council tax claim, the mistakes were spotted by Mr Straw himself and the money has been repaid. Among other reported revelations is that Ms Blears claimed for expenditure on three different properties during the period including a hotel where she stayed after selling a Manchester home. A spokesman for Ms Blears said she had done nothing wrong and the furnishings she had bought were "reasonable". "Hazel is honest as the day is long," he said. 'Systematic abuse' The Daily Telegraph's assistant editor Ben Brogan said the disclosures showed the "scale of systematic abuse" of parliamentary expenses in recent years. The information was reliable, he stressed and it was in the public interest that it should be published. Some ministers would be "embarrassed" by the facts, he said, but it was up to the public to decide whether the practices being highlighted amount to fraud. Mr Brogan would not say whether the newspaper paid for the information. But he stressed the material in his possession was not limited to the Cabinet and the newspaper would be releasing information about the claims of leading opposition politicians in the coming days. No 10 sources have suggested the information published on Friday is accurate but have insisted the nature and timing of the publication was politically motivated. A series of recent scandals over MPs expenses, centred around the so-called second homes allowance, have prompted widespread calls for reform of the allowances system. MP voted through a series of reforms - including a requirement for MPs to provide receipts for all spending - earlier this month. The Committee on Standards in Public Life is conducting a review of MP's pay and expenses after MPs expressed concern that public confidence in politicians and Parliament has sunk to an all-time low. COME BACK GUY FAWKES