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er-----they could reduce spending....

Lots of sense here.... How to make the recession less painful ? cut taxes If we want to get out of this recession in one piece, what really needs to be done? Interest rate cuts won't work. They haven't worked in the US, they didn't work in Japan. That's because as a nation, we're up to our eyeballs in debt. Banks can't afford to lend money; we can't afford to borrow it. All of us need to pay off our debts and build up our savings. So it doesn't matter how cheap money gets, we've snapped out of spending mode and strapped on our tin hats. So the quickest route out of recession is to help people pay down debt and build up their savings. Inflation is one way to reduce the value of debt, but it generally comes with a hefty price tag ? currency collapse and economic meltdown. Higher interest rates might help build up savings, but they'd also make debt more expensive to service. How can we help people save more without fuelling inflation or making our debt burden even worse? Simple. Cut taxes. If you cut taxes, you almost automatically increase productivity, because you take money from a wasteful, inefficient organisation ? the government ? and reallocate it to someone who actually gives a damn about how effectively it's spent ? the individual. And rather than squander the money on property (as the Government is proposing), individuals would use it sensibly, saving it, or using it to pay down debt. This isn't a magic bullet. It won't stop the recession ? nothing can. The looming bust is nature's way of telling us that we spent too much money on unproductive garbage during the good times. Look at it this way. If we'd taken all the money we spent as a nation on property in the past ten years, and had pumped it into ? let's say ? our energy infrastructure, then maybe we'd have lower gas bills, and a nice, productive industry providing highly paid, specialist jobs that would be tough to outsource. Instead, all we've got is big debts, an unwanted pile of jerry-built buy-to-let flats which are already turning into slums, thousands of unemployed estate agents, and a national energy crisis. It's depressing, yes. But what we can do now is put an end to the rot and the waste. The quicker those savings build up, the faster balance sheets are repaired and the quicker we can get out of this downturn. Will this happen? I doubt it. The Government still believes the great lie, that you can spend yourself rich. It still believes that "something must be done." Better get ready for a long, drawn-out, painful recession.

I really don't see any problem with a mission statement involving ????

In Iceland they'd have got a good kicking and that'd been "end of"

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who are the 'they' the 'us' talk about Brendan? I remember, you did and it was very good. Can you post it again? so i can save it somewhere...

....in the interest of balance shouldn't the non-"us" have a clique icon...maybe the Slaughtered Lamb sign or an angry faced "do gooder" shouting "You're not from round here"...just a thought

Well yes, but people go to Waitrose 'cos of its poncey brand rather than any quality issue. The woman all think they're doing what Nigella does and their husbands hope they're going to bump into her

Interestingly it is the market (ie the price of oil) which is now making commercial sense of development of renewable energy sources which means thet it is likely to happen rather than bleating old hippies in health food shops, stoned pierced teenagers padlocked to trees or the front page of the Independent for the last 2 decades....

Don't much like the look of Arsenal's group

Wine's shite - stick to beer, Stella ?5 for six at many a late night offie, thank me later

I'd quite like CCTV outside pubs and bars to identify those bars that ran past the legal opening hours and fined them and the people leaving them past the legal drinking hours, at least it might put the saturday noise and disruption within a more manageable time slot...it's the law after all....innit?

there's a fact for all of "you"

Yada yada yada........I'm not saying that its right to transgress 'road rules' but law abiding motorists - ie those with proper documentation, insurance, road tax, get slapped with these fines whereas the million or so cars in the UK completley illegal run, non-registered,non-certified, uninsured get ignored as its too hard work for the police and courts to deal with these and their drivers and generally law abiding citizens are far more likely to pay up be easier targets etc, BTW Sean - road deaths are on a long term decline I'm pretty sure, inspite of increase in cars, traffic and miles driven so a bit of an emotional 'fact' once again

Chelsea will walk it IMO

Scarbble are stupiud on two points here 1) not developing it themselves BUT, even more so, 2)in not deciding to embrace Scrabuliscous(apologies for spellin)in getting people playing the game again on Facebook, they now look heavy handed and soooooooooooo 20th Century and there's a new game that people are going to play anyway without a hint of their name. You couldn't make up how stupid they've been,,,haven't they read Wikinomics FFS?

hee, hee...I rather like Louisa

The lovely Jenny's a brunette

I don't know about best, but I can tell you my worst... a few years ago I dropped bag with a couple of grand in it on Underhill Road

Keef its somemile long vacuum tube underground (Switzerland?/France) to shoot particles down............er that's the sum off my misinformation...but it has been talked about for years so you must dislike science even more than me

nope

I expect that universities, including the Polys, are absolutely rammed with student saying they are intending to be Estate Agents.........maybe

I think the heads of the employees are also pretty empty

This is from a man city web site "I'm sorry to say this, as a life long fan and - for the last few (for me at least) unforgettable months - employee, MCFC as we know it is finished. Here are the FACTS, for those who really want to know. Thaksin is, as of midlnight 10th August, 2008, an international fugitive. He now has to be found guilty of corruption in Thailand in his absense, offering no defence. Extradition requests will surely follow. The PL will then have to find him short of the fit and proper ownership rules (and believe me, the pressure for that from fellow 'members' has been growing since June). Thaksin is trying to palm off City onto whoever will now take it, an insolvent mess of a business, completely incapable of sustaining itself. The truth is that the only interested party (until recently) - Wardle - is not now able to bail City out now , he cant come close on his own and no partners have been found. The wage bioll and committments due on the last 2 years' transfers have spiralled out of control. The Corluka affair is the last straw - I personally worked on the deal and can assure anyone interested that he has already been transferred to Spurs. Spurs have this evening started legal action, and he will be barred from playing for City following an injunction in the courts tomorrow. Personally I expect Hughes to then resign on principal (he has no choice now, he is on record as saying that he wilol have final say on all transfers). Many wont believe any of this, but a few will. I am very close to this situation (readers will never know who I am or how close - a few would know my name but it isnt appropriate to for me to come 'out') - trust me, I am close enough to know what has happeneded in the last fortnight, I am p*ssed off with it (as a fan, and as someone who has worked hard for the club durinig the ast 18 months or so) and it must be said, a little drunk. I am posting this message on a few sites - apologies for those that keep reading it, but I want City fans to know what is happening. The sad truth is we are finished, and that as a result, the PL will be facing its biggest challenge since inception within 2 weeks of now."

ruffers - big rumours that you're in real shite financially and thingy(Sorry) gone to Spurs without Hughes being told, etc.....it's the internet so could be a load of bull but, as you said, it's City :))