Jeremy

But you seem to believe they are optional.. no?

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I doubt it, I passed my driving test in 1997, I've > been cycling on roads since I was a kid, been > cycling in London for almost 30 years, did cycling > proficiency lessons in school as a kid and again > with my kids when each of them got old enough to > start cycling on the road. Isn't using lights at night part of cycling proficiency / bikeability? > How much additional training have you taken since > you passed your test Jeremy? A few lessons. Enough to know that I need to use the lights after dark.

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The current regulation and enforcement of driving > safety is inadequate. How many people would fail > their test if they had to resit it every 3 or 5 > years? Well from the sounds of it you'd fail your cycling proficiency test! So that sounds a bit hypocritical.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But to what degree and why is it more dangerous? I don't think it's significantly more dangerous I'd strongly disagree with that, but without anything more concrete to back it up than personal experience and a hunch, it's not really worth arguing that one further. But generally I'd say any simple steps you can take to keep yourself and others safe are worth taking. Including using lights and indicating clearly.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > but that could be a dog, or a child just as easily - what would my excuse be then? Well again that depends on the situation doesn't it? I don't really understand your point here (you can't argue that the dog would have been more visible if it had a light on!), and you don't seem to understand mine. If you are less noticeable, you are in more danger. Do you disagree?

numbers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > that's why I didn't comment on the awful black > walls but now jeremy has I feel I can too, thought > it was maybe just me being an old git and not > appreciating 'modern' tastes in home decor. I have no taste... I was all set to paint every single wall in our house with Dulux white emulsion until my wife "put her foot down". I wouldn't usually criticise such things. But black walls... nah. I could understand dark green/maroon/blue in a "formal" lounge or dining room, but not black. Unless, as Otta says, you are a 14 year old boy.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have to think I would have been driving really badly for that to happen. It really depends on the situation, doesn't it? If you're both going 20-30mph, in the opposite direction and can see each other coming, it seems pretty unlikley you'll collide. But if the other guy is pulling out of a side road, with no lights on, between parked cars? You probably wouldn't notice him as soon as you would have done otherwise. If you are less noticeable, you are in more danger. Only an idiot would disagree.

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When I cycle or drive at night, London is so well > lit that I can see anything on the road for at > least 100 meters. In that case I will stop using the headlights on my murder machine (such a dreadful waste of energy). Streetlights are perfectly good enough. As long as I can see where I'm going, that's all that matters.

Does anyone know if the power plant will be paying the living wage? Should we be boycotting electricity?

As far as I am concerned, cycling on the road at night with a child, without lights or reflective clothing is indefensible. Of course drivers need to be aware of cyclists, pedestrians, etc. It's about ALL road users being responsible, not just motorists. If two cars collided at night, one of which had neglected to turn on their headlights, there wouldn't be any debate as to which one had been acting irresponsibly. There's no reason why cyclists should be immune from such basic precautions.

I'd try to knock off a few hundred quid to cover all the white paint it will take to cover the horrid black walls.

They are big, detached houses in a good location with decent gardens - and even garages. There's not much else around to compare them to.

Doesn't every other house price/estate agent thread already end up like this anyway?

I got "Dad" the other day. Made me happy, anyway. You can order custom bottles online. Thinking of picking a select message to anonymously drop onto my manager's desk.

It's a really stupid article. Who ever heard of a "lady train"?

Parkdrive Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > some of these tunes were very much like childrens > nursery ryhmes, could be why they have a soothing > effect on little ones. Yeah I think it's the combination of nice melodies and harmonies, deep bass lines, and laid back vibe.. quite often it's simple music which is relaxing rather than stimulating.

I've always liked ska, but I've been listening to a lot more reggae since I realised that it helps get my baby daughter to sleep. Alton Ellis and Max Romeo work well... as do the more soulful moments of Burning Spear, and any repetitive dub stuff (Lee Scratch Perry, Scientist). But I'm afraid to say, Sorehead, neither of us can get along with the 80s stuff with all the tinny DX7 synths.

Who?

Too much waffle.

Of course, nobody has actually ever seriously called Clapham "Clarm", let alone referred to Streatham as "St Reatham".

Have you had much luck with that one, woody?

cle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The slightly sorrowful Pexmas markets pull the naming off I suppose Sorrowful? I quite enjoyed the recent Pexmas "munch" thing. Although admittedly the "panel discussions" were a bit of a strange idea...

cle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have also heard attempts at 'Pecksvegas'. Yeah... doesn't quite work, does it? Peckhampton?

Penguin68 - no doubt there is more room for middle eastern food (e.g. the excellent Peckham Bazaar), I just hope it's not another formulaic kebab type place.

I would question whether another Turkish place is really what the area needs, but hopefully they will rise above the generic kebab/bread/rice/salad/etc and it will do well.