I don't think wanting to go out for the occasional meal is an obsession, Louisa. It's quite normal, I think. Nice - it's a subjective thing, but for me I guess I mean decorated some time in the last 20 years, cleaned occasionally, has a beer selection which extends beyond Fosters and Guinness, welcoming bar staff, etc. I'm sure plenty of (OK, a few) people like the Man Of Kent and The Pyrotechnists, and I'd happily have a drink there myself, but they don't really tick the boxes for me I'm afraid. Any talk of who has the best bakery is a moot point when the best cakes and pastries for miles around are found at Southerden in Peckham...