Jeremy

tomskip Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SE15 is 410th? Why does the cost of > car/house insurance leap up in that post code > then? I've lived in SW4/SE24/SE22/SE5/SE15 and never really noticed much difference in car or home insurance!

Sanctimonious nonsense.

The woman in the other thread wasn't spitting, throwing stuff, or being abusive. You're being a dick.

Stop being a dick, Grok.

richard tudor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------ > A real local would have replied in the appropriate manner. Is that a joke?

I looked at the current listings for the ED picturehouse... Star Wars, Room, Joy, Danish Girl... it's all mainstream.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Vic. Strange place for a playroom.. with > everyone having to trample through there to go to the loo.. > There is a real risk of treading on little fingers... You don't walk through the playroom to get to the toilet! That really would be grim...

I actually like going to the Vic with the kid. I know that we'll be welcome, they have plenty of high chairs, and if people don't want to be around kids, they can stick to the other side of the bar. Everybody's happy. But that playroom...

Ahem. "The French Quarter", please...

The Victoria Inn does indeed have a playroom, but it's really grim. Cold, damp, tatty, and full of broken toys.

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Sun And Doves used to have a sign that read, > "We allow anyone of any age in the bar before > 7.30. However if you scream, cry or run around, we > will ask you to leave." Pretty fair, I think. Very small children and babies do scream and cry sometimes... it's just what they do. I would expect parents to take the kids outside to calm down if it persists. But you do need to show a little bit of patience and understanding. I wouldn't take a young child somewhere with a notice like that on the door.

Glad it's working out for you. Yes I think since ED has become more popular, it has also become a bit more transient, with many people sticking around for only a few years before moving on elsewhere. Bit of a shame in some ways.

I say go for it without further delay. If they've come all the way from Canada, it must be a serious problem. Good luck.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > London, as a cool place to live and hang out is dying on it's arse. Central London, certainly. It seems to be mainly for tourists, day-trippers from the home counties, and the after work crowd. Much of the cool stuff is way out of the centre. Loads of the music venues have disappeared. West end clubs tend to be embarrassing.

Franklins is a restaurant with a bar at the front. Camberwell Arms and The Palmertson are "gastro pubs" (i.e. superficially pubs, but food is the main draw) And pubs/bars that serve basic grub (fish and chips, burgers, pies, pizza, etc) are not gastro-pubs..

Their food is still informal, traditional, and inexpensive. But better quality than before.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Didn't the white horse always do food? Yep - certainly since I can remember. My comment - "Unfortunately for some of you, they do serve food" - was a gentle piss take of those who think pubs should only serve booze and crisps!

Indeed, there should be room for both. Going to the cinema is great with it's comfy seats, and superior projection/audio. But the film club at the EDT feels somehow more sociable, and with an interesting selection of films (Picturehouse predominantly shows mainstream stuff).

If the back room can be viable then great, I would be really happy to see it survive. But they need some kind of plan to draw more punters - either that or reduce the size of the room (e.g. The Cavendish in Stockwell).

The White Horse has just been refurbed, and still has pool table and darts. Unfortunately for some of you, they do serve food (and soft drinks) as well as beer, and children have been spotted on the premises during some sort of yuppie ritual they call "Sunday lunch". But you can't please everyone.

Sorry - the link (in the OP) mentions the venue at the Half moon a few times, and includes a link to a petition. That is the bit I was specifically referring to. I can't help thinking that if people had used it more, then the new owner would realise that it was worth keeping. And a petition wouldn't be necessary. On the plus side, at least in HH you're in walking distance to places like the Hootananny and the excellent Windmill, and various other pubs that have music.

Ignoring your uncalled-for aggression... I used to go to loads of gigs (from when I was a teenager, up to when I became a family man and my social life went down the pan). I've also played in quite a few bands, including touring bands. So I certainly don't mean to come across as unappreciative of music or the value of socialising.. Music venues are disappearing around the country mainly for two reasons - property development, and people not going out to watch live music. The former can be countered to an extent by community action (assets of community value, etc), but any arts facility can only exist when enough people want to use it. I went to quite a few gigs at the Half Moon from 2000 onwards, I think I've only seen it busy once.

Don't see the point of a petition to retain a music venue. It's a classic case of use it or lose it - as much as you may like the idea of a local venue, not enough people used it.

Sounds good... local artists and underground music. Certainly nothing like a Clapham Common "calling" type festival. (Suspect much of the music will not be to my taste, but that's irrelevant I suppose). Picking on the address of the domain name registration... this is just petty nit-picking. There could be any number of valid reasons - maybe a friend helping out with the website, or someone's parents address, etc. If you are so concerned, mail them and ask about it. Rather than being so bloody negative.

It's the smoking ban that was the real game changer. Kids were a natural consequence. Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really honestly don't understand or recognise this 10yr old fag and > stained carpet stereotype you speak of? Basically, anywhere that hasn't been redecorated since the smoking ban still tends to have the stains and faint whiff... luckily there aren't many still in that state.