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Anyone know where I can find white polo shirts with long sleeves? All the supermarket / department store packs I've seen are short sleeved, and the only ones I can find with long sleeves are ?14 a pop from Jojomamanblahblah. Tips gratefully received!

Oh God. This thread is becoming like a long-running family feud, rumbling on for generations with its origins lost in time, reduced to sniping & chilly requests to pass the butter. In spite of Huguenot's noble efforts to retain some sense in the discussion it has lost any purpose. Marmora Man called it some time ago.

56) Forumites cannot count 55) Carnelli eats ready meals with plonk

19.1 i) Some people will always see smut when smut isn't there. 21) Feelings and actions can be expressed thus: *indignation*, *frowns awfully* 21.1)This convention can be over-used

Sticky buns are much, much nicer. Mmm, the glossy icing, mmm the raisins..

17) Crushes on other posters will leave you feeling devalued. See No.7

6) 2 wheels better

1) Beware any post containing the phrase 'you lot' 2) Brendan's Law will always apply 3) The worst conceivable insult is to be called a Daily Mail reader (though copies of the Daily Mail are sold in every ED newsagent) 4) Mummies (who must always be called "yummy") and customers of William Rose should expect ridicule, which may or may not be grounded in reason ...

No to funding the festival. Yes to funding Southwark jobs and care centres. Festivals (and flower awards) are fundable in good times, but not when care and livelihoods are at stake. I miss the flower dogs on Denmark Hill but I'd be embarrassed to ask for them back.

QE = at-home money forgery? No wonder Huguenot's given up trying to explain basic economic matters to the New Schmoo.

Yeah, you've overdone it now.

Dear me, how magisterial you are this evening, Mrs. Curtain.

Hmm, maybe the magic box got it wrong this time. Hee hee, I said a rude word.

This is where I get out the piece of paper from the sealed box locked in a secure room which reads "Annette, maxxi or Frankito will say 'wannking'."

Dulwich DIY doesn't do pain. But if it did...

If food is the new sex, what are ready meals?

It's my smell and I like it. Whose is this coat, Huguenot?

Damp splendour? That's my coat, gerroff.

Ach, I can live with being called a bad parent by a stranger on the Internet! But to the topic, we've mentioned "modern parenting", but maternity nursing is not a modern phenomenon, surely, just a modern label. It was completely normal a few generations ago to hire wet-nurses, unthinkable today, and pretty much anyone who could afford it had domestic staff (eg a doctor's family, or a vicar's family) which is now the province of the very wealthy. And as someone has already said, most people lived in tighter communities to which they belonged all their lives, and big families helped each other out.

My favourite thing in NY is the utterly beautiful Frick Collection - a small museum in the house of the 1920s oil baron and collector. Wonderful art, and small enough not to try CheekyS too much. But whatever you do, have a wonderful time - good on you!

This room of the forum only works because there's an unwritten rule that in order to foster honest sharing of experiences and choices, we try not to make harsh judgements on each other's parenting. Lots of people expressed reservations about maternity nurses in response to the OP, but they were all done politely. I came on to give my experience because I thought it would be helpful to give a different perspective and (now that the original question has been answered), to talk about other reasons why someone might use a maternity nurse, and candj has now expanded on that: help with breastfeeding, support with older children etc. zeban, I find your comments using strong pejorative language like "ridiculous" and "sad" that someone might pay for help unbecoming and they contribute nothing but bad feeling. Anyway, back on topic - I can completely see why a mother might have a mat nurse with 2nd or subsequent kids (esp with husband away! Eeek!!!) but we chose not to repeat the experience with Twosling, and just shoved him in our bed. Once his tongue-tie was fixed, breastfeeding was easy, and I felt more confident second time around, and quite frankly didn't really give a damn that the house was a mess. However, one of my best friends had a mat nurse with both her sons, and as a formula-feeder she found the help and rest and establishment of a routine invaluable. I'm going with the horses for courses line - with the proviso that some horses are lucky to be able to afford additional help..

Bellenden Belle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can reveal that Carnelli is quite partial to a > family size M&S cottage pie washed down by a > bottle of red wine when left to his own devices. > > I, on the hand, rather like M&S's spinach and > ricotta cannelloni. > > Ah, if only there was an M&S nearby..... Sneak.

Ha. You would, wouldn't you? But Twosling is worse than Moosling was (although now he sleeps quite well when he doesn't have bad dreams), so I guess if I was incompetent then, I'm even more so now. :)

What do you mean, zeban?

Maternity nurses aren't all like this. I was lucky to have one for No.1 for 2 weeks, and she was a very gentle & sweet person who listened to what we wanted and didn't ever advocate leaving to cry. You don't have to completely hand over your baby, but they can let you nap during the day or whatever you need, and mine was great at helpin out with washing, cooking and so on. Oh, and when she brought tiny Moosling to me in the middle of the night for a "breastfeed" (ho ho, more like shrieking & thrashing session), he came with a glass of warm milk & some buttered toast for me! Luxury..