Moos

Shucks again, must have been thinking of another Jenny. Or perhaps Terence Stamp. Still, it leaves the blonde-celebrities-don't-eat theory undebunked.

Shucks, wrong again. I'm rather torn now. I really do like to go to special places from time to time, and whisk a starched napkin onto my knee while pontificating about the exciting juxtaposition of space and colour after going to see an exhibition. But I also like the idea of museums (particularly those that have received an injection from the lottery) being places anyone can just pop to and wander around, and have a cup of tea afterwards. I'm not easily intimidated but didn't feel quite comfortable in the DPG caf? and was really put off by the price. Suppose we could have just got on the bus and gone closer to home.

I guess in an ideal world there'd be a special place for Occasions, and an affordable place next door! Were we moaning, Citizen? (sticks out bottom lip) Edited to say - surely you've got to be wrong there, Ms B, well known fact that blonde celebrities don't eat.

Well, yes, I do agree with that (Ms B's post). If you order you do have to pay! And the Village is expensive, so it's not surprising that the cafe is so costly. It clearly pitches itself as an upmarket place rather than a quick-sarnie-after-the-exhibition hangout.

Nice thread, lorenika. I hope your move went well. My favourite place in ED is Goose Green, and the view of St. John's, the mural, and the baths. It's not perfect, but I love it.

I agree, alba - pretty surroundings but what they serve is fairly ordinary and frighteningly expensive. I suppose they feel they can get away with it because of the location. The only time I've been in it was full of well-off-looking old ladies. edited for silly mistakes

Indifference to *Bob*'s posts? You're off the mark there, Louisa.

Louisa

SteveT Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am concerned that I have not instilled in them > sufficiently the most important lesson, how to > live on what they earn without drifting into debt. That's hardly an irrational fear, Steve - not that I'm doubting your skills as a father, you understand! - it's a very natural and rational worry.

Tonight's highlight was using the loo.

Couch potatoes all feeling quite blue

Do I come across dopey or wiley?

Any parents want to be brave and share irrational fears about their children?

Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Has anybody noticed that we Brits excel in one > particular kind of sport? > Michael, that is shameless plagiarism, and from the naughty Aussies too, tutty tutty Mctut.

It appeared to be suspect - oh, highly

Hi Louisiana - I see what you mean about the self-employed, but I suppose I was thinking more about the people buying and selling in WO&R. I'd be interested to see your link. Will dex, don't deny our love.

I'm going to switch off from this thread now because the ever-entertaining Louisa's last point was so absurd that I can only conclude she's having fun winding us up.

Not disagreeing with that, and I certainly agree that 'too much force' would depend on the circumstances. If we agree that the shoplifter is in the wrong (here I'm with you!) and that it's OK to use force on a shoplifter (here I'd say it would depend on the circumstances) I don't think it's unreasonable to ask how much is OK. I'd say that a good rule of thumb is 'the minimum that is enough to restrain'. That's not because I don't believe in justice - it's because I do believe in justice: the justice of the courts and not that of ?6/hour security guards.

Louisa, you stick to your point admirably. Can we put some boundaries around your view on what's OK? Would it be OK if the staff were accidentally to kill the shoplifter while beating him up? Or what about breaking a limb? Would that be OK?

Applying Logan's Run to ED would be an interesting experiment. Since most of the buggy-pushers look as though they're in their thirties, it would leave a lot of unattended Bugaboos, and a lot of bemused groovy young things with no idea what do do with the howling contents.

Jamma Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Moos ... be aware that your mind is made up by one forum thread, you might think differently if you met me if indeed we haven't met already Quite right to pick me up on that, I should of course have said that I dislike your online persona, largely based on this thread. I hope and indeed trust that you are delightful and charming in person. Jamma Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- - but to want to disagree with me on the basis of my language not my argument, that is irrational. Couldn't agree more, I long to be able to think purely rationally, but sadly it seems to me most human decisions are made for irrational reasons, often retroactively justified on rational grounds. My point was made not at all to annoy or upset you (and I'm glad that you don't seem annoyed or upset) but to suggest that if you want to bring people round to your point of view, you might consider modifying your style.

Keef, that really made me laugh. Now I want to know where you live, so I can stroll up and muse 'what light from yonder window breaks? Oh, it's Keef's fag.' (I'm such a sap. Just thinking about that play makes me go all misty. Come, gentle night,-give me my Romeo) On topic, I'm frightened of the dark. It's absolutely ridiculous, and in many ways quite crippling. I have to really force myself to walk into dark places even in my own home.

Then you have a Juliet balcony, Keef, which I always think is a nice thing, and v. romantic. Wasn't there an episode of Friends (oh highbrow me) when Joey's character in his soap is supposed to die by falling into a lift shaft but he doesn't want to lose his cushy soap job, so pretty much has to be pushed in? I reckon you should watch that as therapy to render your fears absurd.

Brendan, if the cable snapped as you were getting in, it wouldn't split you in half, it would just fall on your head and probably knock your body into the lift as it fell down the shaft. I suppose there's a chance your feet might be comically left behind. Hope that helps. Love Moos

Here's to the bride and groom - much joy to them both, and may the sun shine on them.