Please don't misrepresent me - I have never said that the customers of the Castle are morons, and I never would. I said that people who jeer at girls are behaving in a moronic way, and I stand by that. I agree that photos on this website would be totally inappropriate, for the record. But I'm still not seeing quite where you stand here - is it that anything less than genuine fear of rape is a compliment to one's appearance, or are we inching to a middle ground? What we have to go on here is the OP's original statement, which I quoted when I said 'jeering and leering', and which also described these people as pests.