Moos

Where's Carnelli when you need him?

Bliss! Jah, you are a prince among men. Can't think of anything about that post I didn't love, but I have to admit in particular that "I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru" left me feeling a bit swoony.

Wow, Quids is pissed a bit early today. Love you too, little fella.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyway Eco's Foucault's Pendilum should be > prescribed as the perfect antidote to anyone > infected by DVC syndrome. Pacy, thrilling, > intellignet, amusing and brilliantly written, for > once what really is not to like? A great book, but bloody hard work, I was constantly having to look up words in the dictionary and read sentences 3 or 4 times to work out what they had said... not good for the ego.

ED is definitely the place for mums of all levels of experience! but do be prepared for posts on the forum which may label you as a 'yummy mummy' 'living off your husband's credit card', 'shoving people out of the way with your Bugaboo', 'yacking too loudly in coffee shops', 'breastfeeding in public - urgh!', 'changing your baby's nappy in public' and other such understanding and intelligent comments.

Deepest apologies for returning to the topic of the thread. Quids you may be surprised to hear this! but I have read a Dan Brown book once, although I'm not stupid enough to pay to buy a hardcover and lug it around. The furthest I'd go would be to borrow a paperback. I think there's room in the world for a well-plotted thriller, with mysteries that are difficult to untangle. Shame they so often seem to go with silly conspiracy theories and cardboard characters, though.

That's all right Steve, based on your last couple of posts I don't think you're in any danger.

What's 'YOU LIE' about, Mick Mac?

Just a village. It was a mettyfor. OK, it wasn't, it was just a silly comment.

Ted Maxx would make an excellent village. "Apparently i've heard a rumour" - are you sure you've heard it? It could just be a rumour.

I think this is going to be one of those parenting things when the answer is 'whatever you want'! :) So, the basics - experience with a child your child's age - qualifications are nice, but may not be necessary - CRB check (although of course this is only valid the day it's published, but it's the best we have) - faultless references that you should follow up absolutely scrupulously - first aid certificate And then it's about what you need personally. Someone who likes routine? Someone who's creative? Someone who's a great cook? Someone who speaks the language you want your child to learn? Someone who'll keep a diary for you? For us, it was about finding someone with lots of experience, who had similar ideas to ours about what's important about childrearing (a relatively structured day with lots of activity, lots of fun, good healthy food), who really clicked with our son. It's a good idea to talk about the sorts of activities they would organise, their approach to discipline (becomes important in the 2nd year), what food they would prepare/serve, what they like and dislike about looking after children. Leaving your child for the first time with the great nanny that you find is absolutely terrifying, be prepared for feeling really freaked out! We did it in stages, so the first time was only for an hour, and the first 3 days I was at home so we could get to know each other.

silverfox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Moos Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > See, that's what's wrong with this world, > > political correctness gone mad. Because she's > a > > WOMAN, she was able to take advantage of her > boss > > and marry him, now that wouldn't have been an > > option for her male colleagues, would it? > > > Civil partnerships are now legal so yes, it could > have been Bah, more politically correct nonsense - so now you're saying we all have to be "gay" if that's the term that we have to use now, is that it? Honestly. P.S. Muley, quite right. Unfortunately Mr. Moos does not subscribe to this theory, but then we haven't been married long.

See, that's what's wrong with this world, political correctness gone mad. Because she's a WOMAN, she was able to take advantage of her boss and marry him, now that wouldn't have been an option for her male colleagues, would it?

Well good luck to you both in getting back to full health.

How dare you. I am referring to Sean Mac von Gabhann.

8 threads on recently dead slightly-famous-to-actually-famous dead people on the first page of the Lounge? Sadly, since the Reaper comes for us all, it seems that there is no end in sight, as the fodder for those that like to start these thread on a daily basis will keep on coming. Thank goodness for the 'mark as read' option.

Now what was the crazy PC label that you were wondering about recently, Mr. Mac?

Hi Clare If an elective C-section is what you want, then you should go for it, and never mind what other people think. But as someone who had an emergency C-section, if I were to have another baby I wouldn't choose a C-section. Having your stomach cut open is a big deal, and the recovery time is quite long. I'd say it was at least 2 months, perhaps more like 3, before I was mostly healed. The first few days and weeks are really tricky, you can't walk far (initially you aren't allowed out of bed, and you have to be catheterised - awful) and you have to rest a lot. Also you can't drive for weeks. Add all this to the normal tiredness and difficulty of having a new baby and recovering from the rest of the birth, and you can see why it's not a decision to take lightly. Hope that helps! Happy to give more details by PM if would be useful. Maybe it would be helpful to ask people you know what their experiences were, it will give you a good picture. I had a longish labour ending in surgery but I felt very well looked after by the staff at King's and you can get a long way by just dealing with each thing as it comes, and relying on the support of the people around you. And I very quickly forgot the labour and concentrated on learning my new job, which is excellent distraction for the mind.

I think the complication for employers is that they would have to liaise with another completely unrelated firm to split the maternity / paternity leave - that is, assuming mother and father aren't working for the same company. I think it would be much better if the dad could take the first 6 months - that's the hard work! The 2nd 6 months is much more fun. I would have been delighted to go to work during the first 6 months and come back for the 2nd, just leaving my milk ducts at home of course...

It certainly explains the infamous reluctance of a certain East Dulwich catflap fitting firm actually to do any catflap fitting.

Have we considered autocrat and carefully engineered country bumpkin Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall?

Let's hope so.

Very sad - my father died 12 years ago of pancreatic cancer, and Anna defined it perfectly in her post. It's a testament to Patrick Swayze's fitness and determination that he lived 2 years beyond his diagnosis - one of the characteristics of pancreatic cancer is that it tends to lurk and is initially hard to diagnose before it starts to really take off; sufferers are typically given only months to live. I felt very much for Patrick Swayze when he was diagnosed, having a reasonable idea of what he was suffering and was about to suffer, and as others have said, I think he dealt with his situation with great dignity. God rest.

woofmarkthedog Wrote: > I would rather tie a rope round my scrotum and be > dragged naked by a lame goat across the abrasive > quartzite surface of the Hindu Kush in the depths > of a hard winter than read that paper, as for Dan > Brown his pages could make a fire to warm the > goat. > > > W**F My goodness. I'd rather read almost anything than be dragged naked across the quarzite blahdiblah. I think you need to rethink your principles. It's just a paper.

Hi Cath Welcome to the EDF! and many congratulations on your family-to-be. There's lots on for new parents in and around the area - I'm a full-time working mother (doing paid work, that is!) so don't have much time to join in, but I'm sure you will quickly be scooped up by the family community on the board, and shown around. I'm not aware of much on for couples that is family-specific as many new families struggle to be sociable in the evenings, but I may be wrong. Obviously, you can join an NCT parenting class either in ED or the surrounding areas, or the NHS-run equivalent.