El Pibe

exactly, i think these words get very muddled semantically. The description above I would consider 'liberal' which, as Loz points out is something quite differtent in the US (try substituting 'tard' at the end will give you an idea). Libertarian meant something quite different when it was coined but lost currency or relevance a very long time ago. In the US it has been ressurrected but has a rather different nuance of usage. The word then returns here as a sort of clinical reclamation of liberal in an attempt to shed the assosciative baggage it has acquired over here. Chuck all these different interpratations of political semantics into a nice crucible, add in a dose of the US political clap over here and you can see why the confusion starts, especially when people link to an American journal with the implication that it somehow neatly describes anything that goes on over here, also add in our own biases and an unholy mess emerges. My 'liberal' world view Liberal 1) a Supporter of the Liberal party 2) a belief in personal liberty over legislative influence 3) pejorative (chiefly British) - one who reads the Guardian 4) pejorative (chiefly US) - Communist, Gay, Satanist Libertarian 1) Scary, righteous, flag waving hick voting against their self interest because the president is black/foreign/muslim/liberal/catholic/irish/tall and beardy/godless/the horned beast/it's getting quite close to rapture 2) a belief in personal liberty over legislative influence (chiefly British, synonymous with liberal 2) 3) (archaic) - one who believes in free will over predestination

Yeah thank god, otherwise we'd have had twenty years of desperately poor Eddie Murphy vehicles.....oh...wait.....

"We should have a statute of limitations some of these charges relate to alleged incidents going back nearly 40 years." Really, why? Because by 49 the victim has either killed themselves, ended up in menatl health care or has dealt with it therefore why rake up the past? I get the not retrospectively prosecuting new laws thing, but rape (statutory or otherwise) was still illegal back then you know.

I'm confused, if the main focus of libertarianism in the US is the Tea Party movement, why have I seen precious little evidence of 'socially liberal' views being espoused? In fact I'd go as far as to say that socialy restrictive seems to be the primary goal, or at least have total freedom from interference from the state as long as you want to live the way they want you to.

ive got it if you want a tinker otta, not that I've the faintest idea what I'm doing. I recorded a fab version of 'christmas pudding' for Pibi?o Dos on it!

aaah i see, havent been keeping up to date with the forum recently. Paul[a]K duuurh

I'm with PaulK, its inconceivable that in a world where there are poor people and wars and shit that this bint thinks the universe revolves around her by having a baby, selfish cow with her private health insurance not sponging the resources from the NHS meaning there are more dirty beds for us hoi polloi!!!! If people stopped fawning around these so called royals and concentrated on the things that matter like Christopher's Nan this WORLD WOOD BE BETTER!!!!

"There is a deeper philosphical discussion to be had here on all killing in war." I gather human rights watch are trying to ban the use of automated weapons systems. I can kind of see where they're coming from, but short of skynet style fears I would have thought getting robots to do all the fighting sounds like a marvellous plan ;)

Hire, like rent can be either sale or purchase.

Parishers smarishes, no historical precedent is complete without a unicorn lair!!

West Ham 1 Chelsea 2 Arsenal 2 Swansea 0 Fulham 2 Tottenham 0 Liverpool 0 Southampton 1 Man City 1 Everton 1 QPR 0 Aston Villa 1 West Brom 1 Stoke 1 Reading 1 Man Utd 2 Norwich 2 Sunderland 0 Newcastle 1 Wigan 1 Doing a maxxi!!!

wow, there are weirder forums than this one. I love the quotes and derisory lower caps in The "non-wiccan" Witch community. Splitters!!!!

No one thinks Patton won the war, though Marshall certainly has a claim to it. Monty DEFINITELY didn't!!

I doubt there's a dictionary definition. I think ultimately its a sort of ethos. GOing out on a limb I'd say a bar is about projecting who you are, a pub is about appreciating what other people are, but that's probably a bit too abstract/rose tinted. You can have a bar in a pub but you'd be hard pressed to achieve a pub in a bar, though doubtless there are exceptions to both. If the beer is only bottled it's a sure sign you're in a bar though.

That's just your common-or-garden fear of death, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I gather there are botox parties for that sort of thing.

Don't worry, DJKQ only manages to wind me up because there's a sharp intellect in there somewhere amongst all that wrong thinking and stubborness ;-)

pibe, pibe pibe pibe pibe pibe pibe pi bepi bpibepbi pebi pebi bipedal. pipe is slang for winkie. It's bad enough DJKQ does it to wind me up, like ANYTHING she says doesn't, but don't you start _sad face_ pipa is acceptable, I love sunflower seeds.

Apologies, it read to me like you were saying that women won't be allowed to become bishops because of those 26 places in the house of Lords. I think that comma introduces the ambiguity, ditch it and it's what you're saying ;)

Whatever the strategy, it appears to be working. SAMs and heavy weapons could really redress the balance. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/21/gunning_for_damascus I'm not sure I agree with your analysis of Mao as well argued as it is. Mao guiding principles were not to do with the state but with the military and it's civilian relations in its operating areas. It'd be hard to argue that AMo's red army operated under a sort of negotiated power brokering, he in fact had iron control. THose principles drove his successful conflict with Japanese, ultimately gaining the experience and capturing the materiel which allowed him to defeat the Nationalist forces after the Japanese withdrawal. If you read Isherwood's (rather laudatory) interviews with him in 1938 those principles are all there to see, straight from the horse's mouth. I tend to agree with you that he never adjusted to running a state where that iron control simply was untenable for the reasons you cite, and this may explain why he came up with the idea of keeping China in a constant state of conflict; if you didn't have foreign or real internal enemies then you simply used nature or made up internal enemies or even ideas. From what I can see Mao's ideas are being slowly written out of history over there as a bit of an aberration, transforming him into a benign patriarch more myth than reality.

THe Ray Winstone ones are the worst, makes me want to put a pool ball in a sock...

actually I think you were spared the horror of posting this in the wanted section where the animal rights lot would have jumped on you and accused you of wholesale murder frankly, this lot were kid gloves compared to that lot, none of it even made any sense.

I'm none the wiser as to your assertion.

"26 places in House of Lords, out of bounds to women for this reason alone" explain!?

FA can't really win this. I personally think it was all a diversionary tactic, but the FA will inevitably be accused of sweeping it under the carpet, whitewashing (boom boom) and hypocrisy. Anyway, glad for CLattenburg, though he'll never hear the end of it, mud inevitably sticks.