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More people use cars because of pandemic - I don't see this changing anytime soon - on the contrary. LTN has made it a hundred times worse.

I live in the area and the traffic has been pretty much like this ever since the shambolic LTN scheme was put in place. It is like a rush hour all day long.

Agree with everything Rockets has written.

I think it is all connected and you don't have to live locally to be affected by LTNs. If I work in Lewisham and my bus journey there is taking five times as long now because of the road closures the Lewisham council introduced then I'm affected (over 10 000 people signed a petition against the LTN scheme in Lewisham BTW).

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So that will result in Upland Road being blocked > off , traffic then diverting down Underhill Road > which will then be blocked off and traffic > diverting down Goodrich Road .... > > Before we know it every side road in Dulwich will > either be clogged with traffic or blocked off. > > Did Grant Shapps say that he would intervene if > councils abuse the scheme and introduce > restrictions without consultation ? > > If so how can we get him involved to pause and > review what Southwark Council are doing ? Good idea re: contacting Grant Shapps. Everyone can email him individually but not sure if he/his office is going to reply. Perhaps OneDulwich could lead on that?

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ", it?s why 2200 people have signed the e-petition > on the council?s website" > > ...because a bunch of cabbies on Twitter who hate > Sadiq Khan and speed bumps have signed up to it. > They couldn't give a stuff about air pollution or > the quality of Dulwich residents' lives. Oh dear. I don't drive - I don't even have a driving licence. I signed the petition because I don't think it is fair to treat people living on the roads that take the extra traffic with more noise and pollution while very few actually benefit from this scheme.

bubbachumps Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is there a DON'T reverse the road closures > petition as well? Otherwise can't see how the > council will know which is more popular! To be fair to everyone I propose a) to close every single road in Dulwich (except for buses, ambulances etc)so everyone can enjoy living on quiet streets with much reduced air pollution OR b) ban everyone who lives on the roads closed off to traffic from driving - thus reducing the number of cars that are currently filling the remaining roads I'm sure that everyone who is happy with the current road closures will like these options since you have the entire community wellbeing at heart.

micromacromonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > first mate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > > > ay.aspx?id=500000049 > > > > 2069 now > > 2069 people who don't realise that driving to the > shops down the street of your choice is not a > fundamental human right. I don't drive - I don't even have a driving licence. I signed the petition because I think it is not fair to treat people living on the streets that take the extra traffic now with significantly more noise and pollution - do you?

tiddles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know they were all rather similar but why have > they all been locked? Clearly a cause for concern > for lots of forumites- apologies if admin had > posted something somewhere Agree. One or two people made this suggestion - to lock it - and Admin gave in.

dougiefreeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Online Southwark petition is now live > > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > ay.aspx?id=500000049 Thanks :)

Slocky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheCropolite Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Jules-and-Boo Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > people do drive when they could easily walk. > > > > > > it's just a fact. > > > > > > We need to actively work to get people to > > change > > > their habits and get out of their cars and > > walk/ > > > cycle/ public transport/ essential journeys. > > > > > > It's really not a right that needs protecting > > as > > > much a people think. > > > > 100% agree. > > > More 100% agreement here. We all have to stop > making unnecessary car journeys. Driving a car > down residential roads is a privilege, not a > right. Since this privilege has been so heavily > abused for so long with all the appalling > consequences for the health and well-being of us > all it is essential that measures are taken to > limit and curtail this privilege. Let's just wait > and see how these measures pan out. And in a meantime punish everyone who happens to live on the road with extra traffic, more pollution and even more noise? This is nothing short of discrimination.

dulwichquine Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is there a petition underway to oppose the changes > through Dulwich Village/Calton Avenue? If so, can > anyone post a link? Petition: https://www.change.org/p/helen-hayes-help-us-not-to-get-road-closure-in-east-dulwich?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=custom_url&recruited_by_id=b9ef0770-e198-11ea-a32a-a7c05e9e4c3f

Wil72 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Still no petition to stop the road closures in > Dulwich?... Here it is: http://chng.it/k62TTfZD2G

Closing roads is a terrible idea - all its achived is that the fewer roads are now used by the same number of vehicles. People living on the roads with extra traffic are treated like guinea pigs. And with an extra dose of air and noise pollution.

I think that the only solution is fewer vehicles. I live on Lordship Lane and since the various roads closures started the traffic has been ten times worse. It's really been a nightmare with the constant honking, drivers and cyclists shouting at each other etc.

Traffic seems to be much worst in ED and motorists and cyclists are behaving really badly - riding on the pavements, speeding etc. I live on LL so used to cars etc but since the lockdown restrictions were loosened it's been a nightmare. Not sure if this is because more people use cars or /and because of the road closures. Try to contact your councillor (?). Also, there is a petition to end the road closures in ED: https://www.change.org/p/helen-hayes-help-us-to-stop-the-road-closures-in-east-dulwich

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyone else wondering how a tree manages to catch > fire in the middle of the night? Lightning perhaps - the forecast showed rain but also thunderstorms that night. Or silly people.

The sports ground near/towards Dulwich College. I live at the top of LL and thought initally it's somewhere near Dulwich Park.

Seems as somewhere near sports ground. Seemed so much closer. The smoke and the crackling noise were truly bone-chilling.

Hope it's not Dulwich Park :(

I could see a massive smoke from my window. Phoned fire brigade but they already knew. Lots of crackling noises which woke me up. Hope everyone is ok.

Totally agree with KateFord. I saw/met/talked to James Barber several times - no other councillors seem interested in meeting people.

I was thinking the same. Also, pavements are for pedestrians so if people are jogging they need to be careful not to trample everyone who is simply trying to walk there.

Any chance to make / encourage shops to ration food - pasta, rice etc? This situation really affects the elderly - there is nothing left for them to buy. Many are on their own and have nobody to help carry stuff home so they do their weekly shopping buying very little. Now even this little is impossible to find because of other people greediness.

Great idea. Someone has posted a link to this group on facebook on the forum - could be used as a starting point: https://www.facebook.com/groups/833177740485170/ - Southwark Mutual Aid Covid 19