*Bob*

If you don't care about the environment, then by all means watch Gogglebox and Downton Abbey. Or don't do any of the other million things you don't 'need' to that suck kWh. He who is without sin, Rodney.. The washing line is perfectly usable for quite a lot of the year. Not using a tumble dryer for the rest of the time is 'not' going to save the world.

Well, let's say for example there are four of you in the family. Each family member wears a fresh pair of gruds every day. That's 7 * 4 = 28 pairs of undercrackers. Add to this the extra pairs you might need when you play sports or there is some other form of light soilage rendering the briefs useless. Let's be generous and throw in two extra pairs per week - per person. That comes to 36 pairs. Assuming an average victorian radiator of 1.5m in length and allowing for the difference dimensions of thongs / boxers etc perhaps each radiator can accommodate maybe six items at once - unless you're really determined and have those plastic things that attach to your radiator and get more stuff on so you can really maximise the amount of water you evaporate into your rooms day by day. So you need SIX rads just to get the PANTS done - before you've even started on the things that are larger and take longer to dry. In addition, one should consider that rarely are all pants available to launder on one day and therefore, due to the cyclical nature of the wash - and if you insist on drying on radiators, the chances are that every day - you're going to have top see your pants steaming in one room or another. Pop them in the tumble dryer. The dryer removes the water, which is the bit you don't want in your house all the time if you can help it. Enjoy the warm, dry air and that comes out of the tumble dryer - that's a bonus. Of course I recognise that to some - a tumble dryer might not be affordable. However, the majority of people I know can well afford them but for some reason are determined instead to have their houses full of drying underpants - but then go and spend ?40 on a round of drinks without a thought. They have lost their perspective.

I'm a modest person, Sue. But I really feel I have earned the right not to see underpants steaming in every room six days a week.

How about Friends of Nuclear Energy? What figures have they come up with?

I'm hoping for a soulless bar called 'The Vault' or 'The Old Bank' where estate agents can go to race pints and hi-five each other on a Friday.

I thought it was all breastfeeding tips and battered Ikea furniture. Just goes to show.

So this is what happens in The Family Room then?

?100 / year 'not' to have to look at clothes draped over every radiator in the house every day day, pumping moisture into the air? .. I'll take the tumble dryer these days.

The division line for 'practically a Tory' seems moving all the time. This is Year Zero. There are Tories everywhere. We must be vigilant.

He won't be the last.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34577720

Bob Buzzard Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- It's quite frustrating > as I do have valid local concerns and opinions as > I'm sure you do too. .. and multiple logins, don't forget those, Bob

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But who's to argue with popular culture. It gave > us Toploader after all. I can't argue with that

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- it's by Ernest Hemingway. are you sure?

I won't be hiding you, Lou. Someone needs to keep an eye on you.

Ah yes - the magic moment when you (ie "me me me") discover that - contrary to your peculiar belief that a whole load of people only 'burst into life' when you post - they all put you on hide on day one and you never see or hear from them again.

It's not a new grammar anyway, is it? It's (classified) as an extension of an existing school - which circumvents the legislation that otherwise would prevent it.

LastPass is great - would totally recommend it for the price of a few quid a year. Takes a little while to get all your passwords in there and (usually) upgraded, but after that.. it's a breeze.

I went to a grammar too. When I went it was a reasonably mixed bag, socially and economically. Not any more though - the pupils that get in now are pimped and tutored to within an inch of their lives to pass.

*tightens rubber band around back of head* "I'll be Sean tonight, darling.."

I think if we all have to suffer you banging on about wielding your dildo whenever you feel like it - often before the watershed - then perhaps you're not the one to deem what is and isn't acceptable. Just for the record - I do not wear a face mask of Dulwich Fox when engaging in rumpy-pumpy. I use - of course - my masks of El Pibe and Seany Mac. Though they're getting a bit tatty now.

Believe you me RD - everything just - literally - BURSTS into life.

I've printed the face out life-size and made it into a mask - which my other half and I can take turns wearing when we want to spice things up in the bedroom.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- and I picture foxy.. But there's no need to picture him - Fox puts real pictures of himself up on here. I've printed one out and stuck it on the bog door.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just put the post back on track.. I'd be adjusting your 'should i be responding to the OP seriously'-filter if I were you.

hurrah! Laurel AND Hardy!