JohnL

Houseoflego Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry to add to the rant but i was really freaked > out last week when a boy (11 or 12), walked out of > a side street straight across crystal palace road > without looking or taking down his massive hoodie > (a minecraft hoodie). There was no way he was able > to look up and down the road and he didn't even > try. > > I was going very slowly so he lived! If someone is speeding (going more than the speed limit) down that road and hits someone, the law won't say the boy didn't look, they'll throw the book at the driver. That's one reason why I still stick to 20 in a 20 zone.

tigerranks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i say bring back back the old tv advert > GREEN CROSS CODE "I won't be there when you cross the road .. so always use the Green Cross Code" Couldn't resist checking and he came back in 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30145697 He looks so .. old :)

If I'm alone I'll cross even when cars are coming if I know there's time to do so - I try not to do that in front of children as they can't judge speed so well IMHO. Sometimes I think Teenagers can be impetuous or think they're totally invulnerable (I thought so) - at 18 I remember rushing across the road to catch a bus and getting run down by a taxi (first time in London and wasn't used to the roads at all) - luckily I just got up and dusted myself down. Schoolchildren living in London probably dealt with traffic better than me when I first moved here.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How do Twitter bans work, will it be a red card > next time?... Hope not :) I might have to google it and avoid twitter and football together.

So taking remain out of the equation, what mistakes have been made since the referendum last June. I'd say quite a few (looking at it from the interests of the British side), the timing of article 50, the agreement of the sequencing (Davis said he'd fight this then rolled over on the first day), preparation (civil service needed more resources), negotiating skills. There will probably be an inquest into how this was managed at some point IMHO and the government can't just say "we were following the will of the people" - a lot of decisions other than "leave" have been made.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hammerman Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > I've seen terrible road crossings by adults > with > > primary age children over the years, i.e. not > > bothering to wait for the green man or the > > lollipop lady/man! > > > If there's no traffic coming in either direction, > and no side roads from which a car could suddenly > appear, I don't wait for the green man either. > > And I can't help but wonder what the primary age > children think when they see a completely clear > road and a load of adults standing like sheep > waiting for a red man to turn green. > > And often it doesn't, because nobody has actually > pressed the button ...... > > It's surely about teaching children traffic > awareness and how to stay safe, not following a > ritual just for the sake of it. I sometimes wait for the green man because children are there. I always press the button :)

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A more cynical person may suspect it is a bit of > an "oh, look - a squirrel" piece of news. Yes - Sky keep prefacing every comment about her now with "If she's still there"

Waaaaaaaaah. I hate being beaten by the Irish (even though I love drinking with them) First time I've had a 30 minute ban on twitter after that performance :(

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > red devil Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JoeLeg Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > But I don't have to give them the benefit of > > the > > > doubt. They seem pretty white, male and > angry. > > > They fit the image of certain groups very > > clearly, > > > and frankly if it walks like a duck and talks > > like > > > a duck, I'm inclined to call it a duck. > > > > That's a form of prejudice joe. We're all > guilty > > of it though... > > > > > > You speak an uncomfortable truth. The only thing I > would say in my defence is that I've watched that > video posted earlier on this thread and some > others (and needed a shower afterwards) and have > read the FLA's Facebook page plus others that are > supportive of them, and I feel pretty sure of my > assessment. They ain't pleasant. It's the leaders though - the followers (most of the 10K) are just your 1980s casuals - that's why they're all older men.

BEEP BEEP beep beep beep BEEP disconnect

I notice Katie Hopkins is now claiming the Police were lying about the car crash outside the natural history museum and she's claiming it was terrorism. People are believing her (her audience in central London was apparently quite substantial) - so fake news with the police and media colluding is now seen by many as a thing. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/09/katie-hopkins-natural-history-museum-tweets "Speaking at a Media Society event on Monday with the Guardian journalist Decca Aitkenhead, the Mail Online writer repeatedly argued that ?there is no such thing as truth any more? and why is the Guardian of all newspapers suddenly showing an interest in right wing conspiracy.

So Theresa May's audit on diversity appears to have landed. One thing that could be good about her tenure, hope she follows through.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rendelharris Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > The question which surely should be asked is > > what's the point of the march? Protesting > against > > terrorists, well they're sure to listen. It's > not > > as if the government isn't taking steps to try > to > > prevent terrorism. So at best it's a sort of > > pointless virtue signalling (how nice to be > able > > to level that accusation at the right for > once!), > > "Oh, we really care about terrorist attacks and > > want them to stop" - nobody else does, of course > - > > and at worst it's a cover for anti-immigrant > > sentiment (which is what one suspects). At > best, > > misguided, at worst, sinister. > > Well yes, pretty much my point. Protesting against > terrorism is pointless - stupid, even. It is > inevitably just a veneer. Although I agree in this case - leavers would say the same about Brexit "We're leaving get over it" But I feel compelled to protest.

I prefer a colder house and putting on an extra layer if necessary. It's strange feeling cold/hot is so individual. It's harder to cool down if you;'re hot than warm up if you're cold (in my experience)

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Interesting that James McClean got the only goal > tonight as Ireland got into the World Cup play > offs. He that refused to wear the poppy and got > grief from home fans and opposition. Pat Nevin > summed it up nicely that this was his choice, was > informed, and this is his right. > > Wonder how many FLA sing "no surrender to the > IRA". > > Not surprisingly I have already had separate > debates on the subject of the thread. There is > probably a old school working class reclaim our > national sport, vs educated/middle class newbies > angle to. Bit like Brexit. I got twitter banned for 30 minutes last night for my colourful language after that goal :) I remember deciding to wind up the guy below as a 16 year old visiting Cardiff (he was about the same age) - my friends dragged me to a changing room and held me down to stop me. No 1 hooligan of the time apparently (and of course I didn't know) - He wasn't at the FLA march from what I can tell. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2002/hooligans/gallery/annis_abraham.stm Edit: Like taking the knee - wearing a poppy is an individual decision - I can't understand the big thing that is made of it.

Tommy Robinson speaking at Columbia University - there's definitely an attempt to 'mainstream' the right. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/former-edl-leader-tommy-robinson-to-give-talk-at-prestigious-us-university-a3654316.html I thought once you're refused entry to the states you can't go back.

The inside I like, the outside not sure. But (if I built it) I'd prefer nice indoors and horrible outdoors than the opposite :) Ugly can be lovely anyway (Dylan there).

Nowhere near - it's still hot and I have windows open. My flat is hot though - even when I turn it on later in the year it stays on for 30 minutes..

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There's so much in that article that beggars > belief. He actually thinks the EU is at fault for > not starting talks BEFORE A50 was invoked. > WTF!..:) Why do they assume EU's interest aligns with ours - we are beginning to blame them for looking after their own interests.

White, Male and Bald all eyeballing everybody. Reminds me of a particular pub in central London now closed.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Lets see what happens with Catalonia - its very > > complex - and I get the feeling Trump is going > to > > do something incredibly stupid soon (can't find > > the old Trump thread) but he's said "this is > the > > calm before the storm" - some calm - maybe all > > this is going to be overshadowed :(. > > Near the top of page 3...you posted the last > comment :) > Forget about Trump and his utterances (probably > meant to be overheard) and get yourself down the > pub and watch Wales with a pint in your hand... We actually won too :) I know it's the Canary (the left's Westmonster) but that look on Theresa's face on Chris Williamsons blog. Like an unhappy dog. https://www.thecanary.co/uk/2017/10/06/labour-mps-two-minute-takedown-mays-speech-best-thing-youll-watch-week-video/

EDOldie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Whats coming from the EU and Spain sounds a bit > like project fear to me, I honestly don't think > that the Catalans would have called it if they > thought they were going lose. Likewise there's no > clamor for Scotref2 (is that what it's called?) as > the Nationalists think they'll lose at the moment. #Indyref2 they call it on twitter - yes it's gone quiet for a while now. Lets see what happens with Catalonia - its very complex - and I get the feeling Trump is going to do something incredibly stupid soon (can't find the old Trump thread) but he's said "this is the calm before the storm" - some calm - maybe all this is going to be overshadowed :(.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ?9.30 per hour at 7.5 hours per day and a minimum > 240 paid days per year amounts to 16740 per annum > - the expected net pay per year/month/week/day are > : > > Take Home ?14,662.88 ?1,221.91 ?281.98 ?56.40 > > at 300 paid days per year - gross ?20,925 per > annum > > Take Home ?17,508.68 ?1,459.06 ?336.71 ?67.34 I don't know. I can just compare with the people sitting around me in my office - earning 3x as much at the least (with no unions of course) - there seems to be a huge disparity between low paid jobs and average jobs, never mind the CEOs and VPs on 500,000K+. Edit: Once I'd have said that was good - and the guys can go looking for a job paying more .. but I'm not so sure that that level of difference should exist now.

EDOldie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > As the referendum wasn't legal the "remain > > Spanish" supporters > > didn't vote so I can't see any international > body > > recognising it. > > > > Maybe the constitution of Spain needs to be > > changed and an official > > referendum set-up (otherwise we might see a > re-run > > of nationalist versus > > republican. > > > > International order seems to be getting fragile > > I'd take issue with that, in the eyes of the > Catalan government it was legal and the Spanish > did everything they could to stop it. Maybe they > were too scared of the result to let it go ahead? That would mean Scotland could ignore Theresa Mays refusal to allow a second referendum and just do it ?. (I read somewhere the polls a week ago showed a majority for staying with Spain - but those voters stayed at home) I'm not pro or anti independence for Catalonia - it looks bad either way IMHO - but the vote would have been close .. "The depth of support for independence even in Catalonia is hotly disputed. Opinion polls, although of uncertain reliability, have shown a split in opinion that hovers around 50 percent." "In 2012, for the first time, 51.1 percent of respondents favored independence, according to the Centre d?Estudis d?Opini?, the official Catalan polling agency. In the most recent regional parliamentary elections, in 2015, 48 percent of voters cast their vote for pro-independence parties." https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/world/europe/catalonia-independence-referendum.html

Nadine Dorries "The plot is to topple the PM, destroy Boris and put a remain leader in place to delay and possibly destroy Brexit"